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(-1)^k is the same as (-1)^(2+k)

The expression looks decent. I can't be bothered figuring out my combinatorics right now, but I found this:

 

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(-1)^k is the same as (-1)^(2+k)

The expression looks decent. I can't be bothered figuring out my combinatorics right now, but I found this:

There should be 1/(n-k)! due to the partial fractions coefficients change

EDIT: and not so sure about the bionomial coefficients that you had ?
 

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There should be 1/(n-k)! due to the partial fractions coefficients change

EDIT: and not so sure about the bionomial coefficients that you had ?
The binomial coefficients spit out a 1/(n-k)! quantity anyway.
I suppose, if the binomial coefficients were expanded I'd have ended up with a 1/(k!) * 1/(n-k)!

I checked on Wolfram Alpha and I realised that the terms followed Pascal's triangle, which was what lead me to the assumption of the binomial coefficient being related.

 

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The binomial coefficients spit out a 1/(n-k)! quantity anyway.
I suppose, if the binomial coefficients were expanded I'd have ended up with a 1/(k!) * 1/(n-k)!

I checked on Wolfram Alpha and I realised that the terms followed Pascal's triangle, which was what lead me to the assumption of the binomial coefficient being related.

hmmmm... what method did you use
 

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Partial fractions on n=0, 1, 2, 3 then I checked them on WolframAlpha. Didn't realise a pattern with the binomial coefficients until I saw the Mathematica solutions though. Then I just plugged n=4 and n=5 in and it turned out to be the same. I couldn't be bothered doing over n=3
 

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Partial fractions on n=0, 1, 2, 3 then I checked them on WolframAlpha. Didn't realise a pattern with the binomial coefficients until they put it up though. Then I just plugged n=4 and n=5 in and it turned out to be the same. I couldn't be bothered doing over n=3
yeah i did the same




 

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Both your answers are the same

Missing one bit doe :L
 

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I'm getting the same as leehuan.

, for some suitable Ak (partial fractions).

Using the Heaviside cover-up method,



(taking out the k factors of -1)

(as ).

, where





 
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Oh whoops I forgot a +C...
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Have a break.
 

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Just asking out of curiosity, do you make up integrals on the spot Drsoccerball? When I do that I usually plug them into mathematica or something to make sure they work. Friendly advice :)
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Just asking out of curiosity, do you make up integrals on the spot Drsoccerball? When I do that I usually plug them into mathematica or something to make sure they work. Friendly advice :)
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The reduction formula is:


 

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Integral is positive and comes out to be something interesting, as found by a quite tedious computation (involving polynomial division etc.).
 
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