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dw :L lets say if i have If i add an acid would the equilibrium shift to the the right or left abit confused because carbonic acid is acidic so shouldnt the equilibrium shift to the the right ?
Where'd you get this equation? Here's my take on it:
Firstly, H2CO3 is not in it of itself an intact compound, it's a theoretical substance used to describe the dissolution of CO2 in water
Thus, it is simply CO2+H20 <-> H2CO3 <-> H+ + HCO3-
So additional H+ from an acid should shift to the left
Whereas additional H2CO3 shifts to the right
 

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Where'd you get this equation? Here's my take on it:
Firstly, H2CO3 is not in it of itself an intact compound, it's a theoretical substance used to describe the dissolution of CO2 in water
Thus, it is simply CO2+H20 <-> H2CO3 <-> H+ + HCO3-
So additional H+ from an acid should shift to the left
Whereas additional H2CO3 shifts to the right
Confirmation from a second future state ranker :)
 

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Confirmation from a second future state ranker :)
LOL dis eg0
love how everyone who agrees with you becomes a potential state ranker

uh, could be wrong but
Acidic salt: Ammonium chloride

HCl + NH3 -> NH4CL

Dissolution in water:
NH4Cl + H20 --> NH3 + H30+ +Cl-
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LOL dis eg0
love how everyone who agrees with you becomes a potential state ranker



uh, could be wrong but
Acidic salt: Ammonium chloride

HCl + NH3 -> NH4CL

Dissolution in water:
NH4Cl + H20 --> NH3 + H30+ +Cl-
?
dafuq are you on about its nothing to do with my ego LOL

I just know that drsoccerball, kaido, porcupinetree, ekman, etc. are really good at the sciences they do and I can see them performing really well in the HSC
 

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dafuq are you on about its nothing to do with my ego LOL

I just know that drsoccerball, kaido, porcupinetree, ekman, etc. are really good at the sciences they do and I can see them performing really well in the HSC
I think Occupied thought you were referring to yourself as the 'second future state ranker' haha (hence his comment).
 

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I think Occupied thought you were referring to yourself as the 'second future state ranker' haha (hence his comment).
I was considering that possibility as well but tbh I don't think that I've ever seen anyone on this site with an ego anything like that (barring hayabusaboston)
 

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dafuq are you on about its nothing to do with my ego LOL

I just know that drsoccerball, kaido, porcupinetree, ekman, etc. are really good at the sciences they do and I can see them performing really well in the HSC
If someone agrees with u = state ranker = pretty much just saying ur like a state ranker = arrogant = big ego
how can it be anything other than ur ego LOL

Even tho, all 2015'ers gg

I'm sure they are good at science, but I don't think HSC science can be compared to uni science

I think Occupied thought you were referring to yourself as the 'second future state ranker' haha (hence his comment).
pretty much this
but more implying and less explicit
 

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If someone agrees with u = state ranker = pretty much just saying ur like a state ranker = arrogant = big ego
how can it be anything other than ur ego LOL

Even tho, all 2015'ers gg

I'm sure they are good at science, but I don't think HSC science can be compared to uni science


pretty much this
but more implying and less explicit
shutup
 

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An acid produces hydronium ions so crisium is right from my knowledhe
In HSC, it's a proton donor, not something that produces hydronium ions - that's only true in water.

Firstly, H2CO3 is not in it of itself an intact compound, it's a theoretical substance used to describe the dissolution of CO2 in water
Not true.
 

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In HSC, it's a proton donor, not something that produces hydronium ions - that's only true in water.


Not true.
Yes sorry thats what i meant an acid produces hydronium ions in water therefore if its in water and an acid is added it would shift to the side without hydronium
 

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Plz correct me
H2CO3 is a weak acid, hence its disassociation in water is in an equilibrium. H2CO3 + H2O <---> HCO3- + H3O+
Hence as it dissolves in water, some of the acid molecules disassociates to form hydronium and the other molecules remains intact as H2CO3
 

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Drsoccerball, can you ask a few more questions about Industrial Chemistry?
 

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Drsoccerball, can you ask a few more questions about Industrial Chemistry?
Explain how the differences in the structure and composition of soaps and detergents determine their uses and their impacts on the environment. 7 Marks
 

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Explain how the differences in the structure and composition of soaps and detergents determine their uses and their impacts on the environment. 7 Marks
There's so much things I could say but the hard part is structuring my answer to relate to the question, anyways, let's do this. (If there's anything I should add please tell me)

Soaps and detergents both act as surfactants - they reduce surface tension of the water to improve its wetting ability. They also both act as emulsifiers - they have a polar head which is hydrophilic (able to dissolve into water forming hydrogen bonds) and a non polar hydrocarbon chain which is hydrophobic (does not dissolve in water, but dissolves in grease). This allows the grease to stay suspended as an emulsion in water. Soap is made from fatty acids in animal and vegetable oils while detergents are made from hydrocarbon chains from petroleum.

They both have similar structures however detergents may be anionic, cationic or non ionic. Most soaps are composed of sodium hence why most soaps are sodium stearate, detergents are usually hydrocarbons with a sulfate, sulfonate or other hydrophilic group on the end.

Soaps manufactured in saponification, or precipitation with sodium chloride. Alkanol from petroleum is reacted with H2SO4 to form sulfonic acid at the polar end of detergents, this then reacts with NaOH to form sodium sulfonate.

Soap has very little environmental impact because it is very easily broken down into carbon dioxide and water due to the action of bacteria.

There are two types of anionic detergents: detergents with branched chains and detergents with unbranched (linear) chains. Branched chain anionic detergents were the first detergents formed. They were not biodegradable and led to considerable environmental problems such as a build up of detergents in waterways, blocking sunlight for plants and affecting photosynthesis. Linear detergents were then created; these are much more biodegradable than the branched detergents and solved the foam problem.
 

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Explain how the differences in the structure and composition of soaps and detergents determine their uses and their impacts on the environment. 7 Marks
What would your answer be?
 

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What would your answer be?
My knowledge for this is limited as i zoned out on the last few topics but you have to mention:
Soaps non polar nature causes non polar species that are secured to structures loose killing them and shit...
You also have to mention some soaps have phosphate causing eutrophication in water ways
Changing pH of bodys of water
And remember answer the question most of your answer goes on to the structure of the different types of soaps but you havnt linked them to environmental issues and i dont think you were succinct enough while doing that
Thats my opinion")
 
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