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I can't be bothered Googling but I am slightly confused about the domain for an absolute function.

Would the below setting be right for the domain of a function over that interval?

Yes.

And for the above, [0, ...?] check the pi/2. Also by arbitrary points I do mean random points, but in this situation I mean variable points on the unit circle.

Also, are your points really points on the unit circle?
 
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So variable points in your question could be
A( 1/ sqrt(2), 1/sqrt(2)) B( sqrt(3)/2, 1/2)

We treat it like a parametric equation for 'x' and 'y'.
 

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I can't be bothered Googling but I am slightly confused about the domain for an absolute function.

Would the below setting be right for the domain of a function over that interval?

"Domain" refers to the set of all input values where the function is defined. For the absolute value function you posted, the maximal domain the set of all real numbers ().
 

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So variable points in your question could be
A( 1/ sqrt(2), 1/sqrt(2)) B( sqrt(3)/2, 1/2)

We treat it like a parametric equation for 'x' and 'y'.
Pretty much but leave the parameters in there, in which case a and b here.
"Domain" refers to the set of all input values where the function is defined. For the absolute value function you posted, the maximal domain the set of all real numbers ().
Lol I immediately forgot he said domain.
 

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Maybe what I should have asked was , 'is it the right set of x values upon which the interval lies'? (Not sure if there is a specific term in maths to refer to where the inequality exists x<=1 or x>1
 

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Ok so I haven't gone far in integration, so I may do a little bit of research but here is my answer to first bit: https://m.imgur.com/u9s89zo
I think I may have skipped a bit in the 2nd to 3rd line of ii), so let me explain what I did. So as cos(90-x)=sin(x), cos(270-x)=sin(x), sin(90-x)=cos(x), and sin(270-x)=-cos(x), I just subbed all of those values in to get an expression for that in terms of cos(a), cos(b), sin(a) and sin(b). Also the white out because I used the compound angle formula, something I had to prove later lol.
 

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Ok so I haven't gone far in integration, so I may do a little bit of research but here is my answer to first bit: https://m.imgur.com/u9s89zo
I think I may have skipped a bit in the 2nd to 3rd line of ii), so let me explain what I did. So as cos(90-x)=sin(x), cos(270-x)=sin(x), sin(90-x)=cos(x), and sin(270-x)=-cos(x), I just subbed all of those values in to get an expression for that in terms of cos(a), cos(b), sin(a) and sin(b). Also the white out because I used the compound angle formula, something I had to prove later lol.
Note that this is a 2U marathon, and the compound angle formula is therefore NOT assumed under normal circumstances.

But otherwise, I like your working. Lol, I accidentally made C(0,1) instead of (1,0) and complicated the question, but use of ASTC is acceptable without explanation for this question as otherwise it's too much explanation.
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Tbh, the second part is easier than the entire rest-of-the-question, believe it or not. It can be done very easily using part (a) and the table of standard integrals.
 
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I think we should post questions as they do the topics. Log's was something we learnt towards the end and it can be not valued as much as it should be. We should stick with calculus questions for a while.
 

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a^o=X => loga(X)=o
a^g= Y => loga(Y)=g
a^l=XY => loga(XY)=l

a^l = a^o * a^g (when multiplying by same base add exponents)

a^l = a^o+g (same base, exponents must equal each other)

l = o+g (substitute back into log form)

loga(XY) = loga(X)+loga(Y)

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a^o=X => loga(X)=o
a^g= Y => loga(Y)=g
a^l=XY => loga(XY)=l

a^l = a^o * a^g (when multiplying by same base add exponents)

a^l = a^o+g (same base, exponents must equal each other)

l = o+g (substitute back into log form)

loga(XY) = loga(X)+loga(Y)

Im going to get roasted for not using latex
its k, join the club.
Next question, for 2016ers ONLY (wanna see how many can get it, found it relatively easy)
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I think we should post questions as they do the topics. Log's was something we learnt towards the end and it can be not valued as much as it should be. We should stick with calculus questions for a while.
My bad, I forgot logs was a later topic in 2U.

its k, join the club.
Next question, for 2016ers ONLY (wanna see how many can get it, found it relatively easy)
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Aiya...
 

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was in 2015 2u paper but wanted one of the 2016ers to do it (that didn't accelerate)
 

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its k, join the club.
Next question, for 2016ers ONLY (wanna see how many can get it, found it relatively easy)
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Didn't get time to do it until now, though someone else would have done it by now. Anyway here's my stuff:

https://imgur.com/a/TUf8b

lol also the album is the wrong way around, just look at the second pic first then the 1st
 

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Didn't get time to do it until now, though someone else would have done it by now. Anyway here's my stuff:

https://imgur.com/a/TUf8b

lol also the album is the wrong way around, just look at the second pic first then the 1st
Did you perform an argument with areas for (i)? Because similar triangles was a more tidier method.
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Did you perform an argument with areas for (i)? Because similar triangles was a more tidier method.
Yeah, I could tell there was a better way, just thought that if I've already proved it there's no reason to do it again.
 

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Did you perform an argument with areas for (i)? Because similar triangles was a more tidier method.
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a) 1/36
b) bit confused here as the game will end as proposed in the question so my answer of sky winning is 1/2 as there are 2 players. (might be wrong).
 

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a) 1/36
b) bit confused here as the game will end as proposed in the question so my answer of sky winning is 1/2 as there are 2 players. (might be wrong).
Nope, it's not a symmetry probability as Sky has the advantage of going first.
 
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