English Standard vs English Advanced (1 Viewer)

[Christopher16]

I hear that you should do English Advanced but why?

Can someone answer this dilemma for me?

 

[cookie_dough]

ermm.. this depends. E.g. it's not advisable if you can't even speak English right?
probably because it scales higher compared to standard (but only if you do decently- a 0 it will still be a 0)

 

[Nailgun]

I hear that you should do English Advanced but why?

Can someone answer this dilemma for me?

if you are capable of doing advanced, do advanced
advanced scales (significantly) better, so like getting very good marks in standard is not equivalent to getting very good marks or even good marks in advanced

that being said you can still do well with standard, but if you're capable of doing very well in standard you're probably be still capable of doing very well or at least well in advnaced, and in terms of your ATAR you'd be rewarded for choosing advanced

anyways regardless on whether you think you can do it or not, start out with advanced. if you start flunking or something, you cans till always drop down to standard

also, keep in mind there are people on this forum who only started learning english <5 years ago and are almost topping their school in advanced
advanced aint that hard lele

 

[BLIT2014]

if you are capable of doing advanced, do advanced
advanced scales (significantly) better, so like getting very good marks in standard is not equivalent to getting very good marks or even good marks in advanced

that being said you can still do well with standard, but if you're capable of doing very well in standard you're probably be still capable of doing very well or at least well in advnaced, and in terms of your ATAR you'd be rewarded for choosing advanced

anyways regardless on whether you think you can do it or not, start out with advanced. if you start flunking or something, you cans till always drop down to standard

also, keep in mind there are people on this forum who only started learning english <5 years ago and are almost topping their school in advanced
advanced aint that hard lele

Firstly, the scaling is similar (this is the biggest misconception that students have).
It is the aligning that it significantly different, Standard aligns(proportion of people in each band e.g 6,5,4,3 etc) a lot worse then Advanced.

Proof:

http://www.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/ebos/static/BDHSC_2014_12_15130.html
http://www.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/ebos/static/BDHSC_2014_12_15140.html

 

[Christopher16]

The percentage...

Isn't just English Standard people just "dumb"? or is it seriously that bad?

 

[Nailgun]

Firstly, the scaling is similar (this is the biggest misconception that students have).
It is the aligning that it significantly different, Standard aligns(proportion of people in each band e.g 6,5,4,3 etc) a lot worse then Advanced.

Proof:

http://www.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/ebos/static/BDHSC_2014_12_15130.html
http://www.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/ebos/static/BDHSC_2014_12_15140.html

actually it scales worse im pretty sure
http://www.uac.edu.au/documents/atar/2015-tables/A3.pdf

the number you want is the mean scaled mark

the mean scaled mark for standard is 19.5, where the mean mark is 33.8
the mean scaled mark for advanced is 32.2, where the mean mark is 40.4

standard scales a lot worse.


edit: correction it doesn't scale that badly....assuming you top the state

 

[Kolmias]

Just pick English Advanced/

 

[the_matrix]

The percentage...

Isn't just English Standard people just "dumb"? or is it seriously that bad?

LOL I hate to say it but yea 'dumb' would probably be the right description. Also note that people who do standard are generally lazier than their advance counterparts. The Standard course isn't that bad, its quite straight forward in fact - decent inference + decent analysis = boom good marks, none of that Advance crap where you can miraculously infer so much from one word...

In my case, I just have horrible memory and can't memorise more than 2 essays without mixing them up or forgetting all of them in exams LOL

 

[Christopher16]

LAUGH OUT LOUD!!! :O

lol - inferring a lot from one word!