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Hi guys,
For those doing the Professional Cadetships Australia for tech. or business @ UBS, Barrenjoey, Macquarie, do you guys find it time-manageable? (cause I'm worried I can't balance it well with uni next yr)?

And what would you guys say is the effort ratio needed to put into a cadetship job vs. uni (e.g. 40% effort into cadetship, 60% in uni)?

And if I'm in a situation where idk what course to exactly pursue (though I enjoy both economics - related to business, and maths/science - related to tech. , but I think I have better chance at interview at tech), should I just apply for both tech and business?

Thank you!
 

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Hi guys,
For those doing the Professional Cadetships Australia for tech. or business @ UBS, Barrenjoey, Macquarie, do you guys find it time-manageable? (cause I'm worried I can't balance it well with uni next yr)?

And what would you guys say is the effort ratio needed to put into a cadetship job vs. uni (e.g. 40% effort into cadetship, 60% in uni)?

And if I'm in a situation where idk what course to exactly pursue (though I enjoy both economics - related to business, and maths/science - related to tech. , but I think I have better chance at interview at tech), should I just apply for both tech and business?

Thank you!
apply, then think about other things. it's quite difficult to get a cadetship.

tech is mostly computer science I would imagine.
 

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Hi guys,
For those doing the Professional Cadetships Australia for tech. or business @ UBS, Barrenjoey, Macquarie, do you guys find it time-manageable? (cause I'm worried I can't balance it well with uni next yr)?

And what would you guys say is the effort ratio needed to put into a cadetship job vs. uni (e.g. 40% effort into cadetship, 60% in uni)?

And if I'm in a situation where idk what course to exactly pursue (though I enjoy both economics - related to business, and maths/science - related to tech. , but I think I have better chance at interview at tech), should I just apply for both tech and business?

Thank you!
Doing a cadetship is not a stroll in the park but if you have a strong interest in finance/tech you should definitely apply! It's 100% manageable but there'll be periods where you won't sleep as much as you'd like. You get at least 1 day off a week to go to uni. Effort ratio really depends on your priorities- you'll have to put in a solid amount of effort/time into work. It's then up to you how much time you allocate after that to studying, socialising and resting.
 

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Doing a cadetship is not a stroll in the park but if you have a strong interest in finance/tech you should definitely apply! It's 100% manageable but there'll be periods where you won't sleep as much as you'd like. You get at least 1 day off a week to go to uni. Effort ratio really depends on your priorities- you'll have to put in a solid amount of effort/time into work. It's then up to you how much time you allocate after that to studying, socialising and resting.
Oh ok, thank you for tips!
 

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Hi!

First year cadet here. In terms of time management, I do find it time manageable so far, but keep in mind it does mean having to give up on some other things. Personally, I've found it a bit harder to make to uni or society events, cause they're either during work or in the evening and at that point you might be quite tired and you're just thinking, 'I just wanna go home'. I have a friend doing a cadetship at a different company from me and she has done much better than me in terms of engaging in that social aspect. One caveat for me in this regard is that I do have a one hour long commute, so it is a bit more effort for me.

In terms of just purely uni-work balance or effort, in one way, it'll depend on which company you end up working for. Remember that after the first interview with PCA, you can only go on to interview at one of the offering companies. Because of this, doing your best to find out what the company culture is like can be really important, and it was a big factor in why I chose my current company. UBS has been in this for a long time and they manage a lot of cadets, so they are a bit stricter in how you approach uni and work in terms of your study and workload, and the expectations for their work are a lot higher in terms of the hours. Luckily for me, my company is a lot more flexible and encourages us to take time off to study for exams and ensures we get the most out of uni too, and we don't have to work insane hours (yet, reporting season will probably be a different story).

In another sense of how much effort you're putting in to each, it'll also depend on what you're looking to get out of each. If you want to do relatively well compared to your uni cohort and be on the upper end of the class, then balancing that with work is very much possible! If you want to be university medal sort of level of achievement, it would be a lot harder to manage. Setting manageable expectations of yourself is going to be important in terms of your mental wellbeing and also managing other aspects of your life like social or physical health.

Ultimately, there will be some sacrifice needed in the end. For me, that has meant not really attending a lot of uni events or society events, but that's partly a consequence of me being 17 still and having to travel a lot. Still, your health, both physical and mental, should still be one of your top priorities, as well as doing well in uni, work and keeping your social life alive and thriving. It's a balancing act for sure, but 100% doable, and it can be incredibly rewarding.

Also for the tech or business question, apply for both? I'm honestly not too sure cause the tech ones haven't been offered in ages.

Hope that helps!
 

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Hi!

First year cadet here. In terms of time management, I do find it time manageable so far, but keep in mind it does mean having to give up on some other things. Personally, I've found it a bit harder to make to uni or society events, cause they're either during work or in the evening and at that point you might be quite tired and you're just thinking, 'I just wanna go home'. I have a friend doing a cadetship at a different company from me and she has done much better than me in terms of engaging in that social aspect. One caveat for me in this regard is that I do have a one hour long commute, so it is a bit more effort for me.

In terms of just purely uni-work balance or effort, in one way, it'll depend on which company you end up working for. Remember that after the first interview with PCA, you can only go on to interview at one of the offering companies. Because of this, doing your best to find out what the company culture is like can be really important, and it was a big factor in why I chose my current company. UBS has been in this for a long time and they manage a lot of cadets, so they are a bit stricter in how you approach uni and work in terms of your study and workload, and the expectations for their work are a lot higher in terms of the hours. Luckily for me, my company is a lot more flexible and encourages us to take time off to study for exams and ensures we get the most out of uni too, and we don't have to work insane hours (yet, reporting season will probably be a different story).

In another sense of how much effort you're putting in to each, it'll also depend on what you're looking to get out of each. If you want to do relatively well compared to your uni cohort and be on the upper end of the class, then balancing that with work is very much possible! If you want to be university medal sort of level of achievement, it would be a lot harder to manage. Setting manageable expectations of yourself is going to be important in terms of your mental wellbeing and also managing other aspects of your life like social or physical health.

Ultimately, there will be some sacrifice needed in the end. For me, that has meant not really attending a lot of uni events or society events, but that's partly a consequence of me being 17 still and having to travel a lot. Still, your health, both physical and mental, should still be one of your top priorities, as well as doing well in uni, work and keeping your social life alive and thriving. It's a balancing act for sure, but 100% doable, and it can be incredibly rewarding.

Also for the tech or business question, apply for both? I'm honestly not too sure cause the tech ones haven't been offered in ages.

Hope that helps!
Oh ok, thank you so much, that was very insightful indeed! Would you say that balancing uni, cadetship, etc. is more stressful/tiring than HSC studies in year 12?
 

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Oh ok, thank you so much, that was very insightful indeed! Would you say that balancing uni, cadetship, etc. is more stressful/tiring than HSC studies in year 12?
oooooooo good question, I would say it's less stressful, but mostly because the HSC seems like a lot less stressful once you've moved on and graduated and it also just putting in the work feels a bit more normal than it once did, especially cause the HSC was the first time anyone really ever works to that degree and we don't know if it will pay off or not.
 

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oooooooo good question, I would say it's less stressful, but mostly because the HSC seems like a lot less stressful once you've moved on and graduated and it also just putting in the work feels a bit more normal than it once did, especially cause the HSC was the first time anyone really ever works to that degree and we don't know if it will pay off or not.
But still very tiring don't get me wrong
 

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oooooooo good question, I would say it's less stressful, but mostly because the HSC seems like a lot less stressful once you've moved on and graduated and it also just putting in the work feels a bit more normal than it once did, especially cause the HSC was the first time anyone really ever works to that degree and we don't know if it will pay off or not.
Oh ok yeah, thank you!
 

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But still very tiring don't get me wrong
I also wanted to ask whether I can go through with the interviews and be accepted into a cadetship, but am I able to later reject this offer if I've chosen to no longer pursue it?
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I also wanted to ask whether I can go through with the interviews and be accepted into a cadetship, but am I able to later reject this offer if I've chosen to no longer pursue it?
Thank you
Most likely? They would probably be a bit surprised considering the whole process would've taken from March to September/October before you get a conditional offer, but they can't force you into it or anything
 

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Most likely? They would probably be a bit surprised considering the whole process would've taken from March to September/October before you get a conditional offer, but they can't force you into it or anything
Oh ok, thank you!
 

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