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Legendary16

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does anyone have any like similar thematic links to both hollowmen and preludes in ts eliots poems that arent desire for spirituality and fragmentation of society? im struggling to write a third paragraph/think of a third overarching theme that are in both hollowmen and preludes :angel: going insane
The futility and superficiality of the Modern world would be apt for both poems, as well as the shift from Modernism to Romanticism (the opening lines of Preludes are ideal for that)
 

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The futility and superficiality of the Modern world would be apt for both poems, as well as the shift from Modernism to Romanticism (the opening lines of Preludes are ideal for that)
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i'd say stick magi into the paragraph about desire for spirituality, and talk about how the their desire for spirituality can only be achieved once they have forgotten their old beliefs like a spiritual death/reset for the coming of jesus? and then that would be a good spot to put in context too
yea i put magi into the paragraph about desire for spirituality along with hollow men so my structure is like:
para 1: poem 1 & 2 hollow men, preludes (stagnation & mundanity)
para 2: poem 2 & 3 hollow men, magi (desire for spirituality)
para 3: poem 3 & 1 magi, preludes (fragmentation & decay of society)
this is the structure my school recommended... any1 else the same? 💀 💀
 

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yea i put magi into the paragraph about desire for spirituality along with hollow men so my structure is like:
para 1: poem 1 & 2 hollow men, preludes (stagnation & mundanity)
para 2: poem 2 & 3 hollow men, magi (desire for spirituality)
para 3: poem 3 & 1 magi, preludes (fragmentation & decay of society)
this is the structure my school recommended... any1 else the same? 💀 💀
My teachers have just been saying what I said earlier about magi being a contrast. When Magi was written Elliot had converted to Anglicanism and while magi is still not a happy poem it has an element of hope, and follows the common poetic conventions a bit more. The magi also complete a journey but unlike earlier journeys by the flaneurs their journey has a purpose. So Magi is less saying humans have a desire for spirituality and more that spirituality is hard but is a counter to the stagnation and mundanity of modern life. Thats what my teachers been saying at least. Elliot is far happier when he wrote this poem
 

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if you get early entry for ur 1st preference course on UAC , do you remove it?
wait no I get it too, I got early entry from the uni for my course, but also did the Uac which u don't hear about until after hsc, but I paid the $80 anyway so no I don't think u can take it off
 

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I just got this random email from some Harvard admissions guy Benito Nishizawa but I never even looked into going to a US uni. Has anyone else got this.
 

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