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are they mental? internal assessments normally are based on one topic
no for trials,
APPARENTLY they do their own trials at the beginning of term 3 and then they do another trial (CSSA) at the end of term 3 and compare the averages/results, then they submit the highest to NESA and thats how they maintain a top 20 rank school
 

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no for trials,
APPARENTLY they do their own trials at the beginning of term 3 and then they do another trial (CSSA) at the end of term 3 and compare the averages/results, then they submit the highest to NESA and thats how they maintain a top 20 rank school
That is mental. However, the raw marks that a school send in to NESA don't actually matter. The marks get moderated by how the school does in the HSC exam. E.g. a school could send in marks where everyone got above 90 if they made the test very easy. However, if the highest mark in the exam was 70, no one in the cohort would get above 70.
 

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That is mental. However, the raw marks that a school send in to NESA don't actually matter. The marks get moderated by how the school does in the HSC exam. E.g. a school could send in marks where everyone got above 90 if they made the test very easy. However, if the highest mark in the exam was 70, no one in the cohort would get above 70.
genuinely i don't get why some schools place emphasis on making hard trials and assessments. what does it even achieve?
 

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That is mental. However, the raw marks that a school send in to NESA don't actually matter. The marks get moderated by how the school does in the HSC exam. E.g. a school could send in marks where everyone got above 90 if they made the test very easy. However, if the highest mark in the exam was 70, no one in the cohort would get above 70.
well idk looks like the method works bc they are 19th in the state in 2024 and were 27th ranked in 2023
 

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well idk looks like the method works bc they are 19th in the state in 2024 and were 27th ranked in 2023
Causation doesn't equal correlation. Even with the easiest assessments with everyone getting 100, they still would've gotten the same amount of band 6s.
 

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well idk looks like the method works bc they are 19th in the state in 2024 and were 27th ranked in 2023
As coolcat said, they most likely just had a better cohort. The raw marks that schools send to NESA have no relevance. It is the ranks and relative distance between each rank that matters.
 

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having 2 trials allows them to get a more accurate picture of ranks
this is exactly why internal assessments are flawed. no other country besides australia does this

America's equivalent: AP (external exam only)
UK's equivalent: A Level (external exam only)
China's equivalent GaoKao (external exam only)

you're telling me the purpose of an internal is only to rank people, and for teachers to rank people the most accurately, they have to do... even more exams?

like just give people the marks they actually got on the hsc exam💀
 
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this is exactly why internal assessments are flawed. no other country besides australia does this

America's equivalent: AP (external exam only)
UK's equivalent: A Level (external exam only)
China's equivalent GaoKao (external exam only)

you're telling me the purpose of an internal is only to rank people, and for teachers to rank people the most accurately, they have to do... even more exams?

like just give people the marks they actually got on the hsc exam💀
IB, Germany, Canada, Singapore
also the US has no standardised external exams, they are all run by private companies and are optional
 

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IB, Germany, Canada, Singapore
also the US has no standardised external exams, they are all run by private companies and are optional
AP is standardised, they are ran by the organization that also conducts sat, college board

IB is even more garbage and I'm glad we don't have to do it
 

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See how you go in hsc, and then decide if you want to go through with it. Ex2 requires a whole brain reset, and according to my maths teacher who's a senior HSC marker, even the smartest ext 1 kids have difficulties getting a band 5.
smartest ext 1 kids gettin a b5 in 4u aint true what 💀

sure, ext 2 is hard but it's not that hard 💀
 

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I would say getting an e3 in ext 2 is easier than a band 6 in adv, really depends though. It takes alot of conceptual understanding at the start, but after that u can mostly do all the questions up until 14-15.
i think ts a stretch, e3 is what, 50 raw? ifl 50 raw in 4u is harder than 80 raw in 2u, though this is just my opinion
 

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i think ts a stretch, e3 is what, 50 raw? ifl 50 raw in 4u is harder than 80 raw in 2u, though this is just my opinion
A 50/100 in 4u (80 hsc mark) is much harder than even a 90/100 in 2u (96 hsc mark). Scaling attempts to account for this but it's too trash
 

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A 50/100 in 4u (80 hsc mark) is much harder than even a 90/100 in 2u (96 hsc mark). Scaling attempts to account for this but it's too trash
ik 4u alignment is good but it's not THAT good 💀
idk about much harder but if you're doing 3u alongside 2u, I think 80 hsc mark in 4u is more work than 96 in 2u if you're good at 3u. slight stretch to say it's more difficult tho imo
 

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ik 4u alignment is good but it's not THAT good 💀
idk about much harder but if you're doing 3u alongside 2u, I think 80 hsc mark in 4u is more work than 96 in 2u if you're good at 3u. slight stretch to say it's more difficult tho imo
well it's definitely harder. the questions asked in 2u exams are so simple anyone can get a 90/100 raw mark with enough practice. It doesn't require a high IQ. Meanwhile math extension 2 exams definitely does to even get a 50%

scaling doesn't account for this so it still scales 95 in 2u better than 80 in 4u.
 

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