Eng Ext 1 & 2 Predictions/Thoughts (1 Viewer)

[BionicMango]

This is going to sound absolutely absurd but the way our teacher taught us to do 25 mark criticals in S1 is to kind of use our creative pieces we would otherwise use as anecdotes/evidence in our essays. So like my body paragraph structure is:

Topic Sentence relating to question & construction of worlds -> Literary Theory -> Analysis -> TEXT 1/2 (quote it, analyse it and link to your ideas) -> Imaginative Section -> Analyse imaginative section and connect to your argument (and quote stimulus material again)

And then I do 2 of those big ones. But yeah agreed there is so much flexibility in ENX1 it's a bit disconcerting lol.

So basically the imaginative texts become part of anecdotal evidence for your essays? That’s actually pretty clever

 

[erin_4school]

So basically the imaginative texts become part of anecdotal evidence for your essays? That’s actually pretty clever

wait i might be stupid but how would this work in like an essay?

 

[Dresden]

wait i might be stupid but how would this work in like an essay?

I'm not sure if this makes sense but because a Section 1 essay isn't really structured the same way like an S2 or an Adv essay (i.e. topic sentence, context, evidence analysis link), I've been taught to treat it more like a discursive essay but with a high academic register. So the way I incorporate my imaginative sections is after finishing my analysis of the stimulus they give us, line break "Consider a world, where xyz happens." then make an indent on the page (kind of like when they quote someone in news articles and have the line on the side) and write out the shortened imaginative section. And then after that yeah line break "In this world, xyz happens, this shows that literary worlds do this." Then return to regular critical structure.

 

[erin_4school]

I'm not sure if this makes sense but because a Section 1 essay isn't really structured the same way like an S2 or an Adv essay (i.e. topic sentence, context, evidence analysis link), I've been taught to treat it more like a discursive essay but with a high academic register. So the way I incorporate my imaginative sections is after finishing my analysis of the stimulus they give us, line break "Consider a world, where xyz happens." then make an indent on the page (kind of like when they quote someone in news articles and have the line on the side) and write out the shortened imaginative section. And then after that yeah line break "In this world, xyz happens, this shows that literary worlds do this." Then return to regular critical structure.

wait thats actually so smart!!

 

[Trial&Error]

How do you guys go about finding techniques and quotes from unseen texts in section 1?

Also, I've heard mixed thoughts on this, but are some techniques superior than others? Like should we be using "complex" techniques?

 

[BionicMango]

I find that hard myself but basically when people say complex techniques, they mean don’t just mention a single simile as evidence for your argument like you would in year 9-10 or english standard (and maybe adv).
Start off by mentioning macro techniques like structure (is it cyclical? Linear? Flashback?), voice and tone. Then support THAT with minor, simpler techniques (i.e. first technique could be cyclical structure, and the second one could be a recurring motif that consolidates that circular narrative). My teacher used to tell me to “zoom in” and you won’t end up using the “basic” techniques without meaning, iykwim

 

[soph235897]

guys you know how for analyticals in s1 they usually give you a critical text and a creative text as extracts, how do you use the critical one? do you analyse it still and try to find techniques, or do you just use its quotes as a framing device/lens to analyse the creative?

 

[erin_4school]

guys you know how for analyticals in s1 they usually give you a critical text and a creative text as extracts, how do you use the critical one? do you analyse it still and try to find techniques, or do you just use its quotes as a framing device/lens to analyse the creative?

usually it will say "in light of text 1 analyse how text 2 does....blah blah" so in that cause you would just use the concepts explored in the critical to analyse how they inform the writers construction of a literary world in the creative. so no, i dont usually find techniques from the critical, its more of a lens

 

[erin_4school]

bcs last yr had a reflection whats the chances we have one again?

 

[soph235897]

thanks!! just wondering if it didn't say the 'in light of' and 'analyse text 2' if it just says using texts 1 and 2 would you still just approach it that way?

usually it will say "in light of text 1 analyse how text 2 does....blah blah" so in that cause you would just use the concepts explored in the critical to analyse how they inform the writers construction of a literary world in the creative. so no, i dont usually find techniques from the critical, its more of a lens

 

[soph235897]

bcs last yr had a reflection whats the chances we have one again?

I feel like it's super super unlikely

 

[fluffy_unicorns]

Guys do you think its okay to have two films in my essay? One of them is prescribed, and the second one is one of my ORTs. I have a special interest in film and did a short film for Ext2, so I'm able to go really in depth for the techniques and allat. That's why I wanted to do both, but I'm worried about overloading my marker with film analysis haha. I'm also using 2/3 poems by Wordsworth for a prescribed text and Brave New World as a second ORT if required, so there is a good mix of poetry/film/prose fiction, but there would still be a lot of film analysis

 

[erin_4school]

thanks!! just wondering if it didn't say the 'in light of' and 'analyse text 2' if it just says using texts 1 and 2 would you still just approach it that way?

id probs still go about it the same way tbh. but it really depends on the wording of the q (not helpful ik sorry) as it will usually subtly tell u whether it wants you to analyse both texts, or use one to inform the other.

 

[erin_4school]

Guys do you think its okay to have two films in my essay? One of them is prescribed, and the second one is one of my ORTs. I have a special interest in film and did a short film for Ext2, so I'm able to go really in depth for the techniques and allat. That's why I wanted to do both, but I'm worried about overloading my marker with film analysis haha. I'm also using 2/3 poems by Wordsworth for a prescribed text and Brave New World as a second ORT if required, so there is a good mix of poetry/film/prose fiction, but there would still be a lot of film analysis

the only thing ive seen is that u at least have to study 2 written prescribed texts out of your 3, i haven't seen anything abt having to write abt 2 written texts so i think ur good

 

[Dresden]

Guys do you think its okay to have two films in my essay? One of them is prescribed, and the second one is one of my ORTs. I have a special interest in film and did a short film for Ext2, so I'm able to go really in depth for the techniques and allat. That's why I wanted to do both, but I'm worried about overloading my marker with film analysis haha. I'm also using 2/3 poems by Wordsworth for a prescribed text and Brave New World as a second ORT if required, so there is a good mix of poetry/film/prose fiction, but there would still be a lot of film analysis

You're so fine I'm doing like the same thing lol, I'm doing Pan's Labyrinth (film) and Coleridge (poetry) as my prescribed texts and then a murakami novel & Inception (film) as my related. I would say do two print texts if it's ONE related text but otherwise yeah you're good to go!

 

[fluffy_unicorns]

Thank youuu guys, so will yall be aiming do to two related texts even if it says 'at least one'? It's so hard to figure out what balance of prescribed to related they want haha

 

[soph235897]

Thank youuu guys, so will yall be aiming do to two related texts even if it says 'at least one'? It's so hard to figure out what balance of prescribed to related they want haha

im planning on only doing one unless they ask for 2. i'm not sure if everyone was guided this way, but my teacher at least said to always do the minimum amount they ask for, because that is all you are required to do in the marking rubric, so you likely won't be rewarded for doing more but you may be harmed due to a lack of depth when writing about 4 texts (but again this is just what I was told, I feel like it can always be hard with english as so many teachers say different things!)

 

[fluffy_unicorns]

im planning on only doing one unless they ask for 2. i'm not sure if everyone was guided this way, but my teacher at least said to always do the minimum amount they ask for, because that is all you are required to do in the marking rubric, so you likely won't be rewarded for doing more but you may be harmed due to a lack of depth when writing about 4 texts (but again this is just what I was told, I feel like it can always be hard with english as so many teachers say different things!)

ooh yeah that's a good point, thank you! Hopefully they only ask for one this year

 

[soph235897]

ooh yeah that's a good point, thank you! Hopefully they only ask for one this year

yes i'll be so upset if they make us talk about two!

 

[Kat.crazi]

Do we need literary theories/theorists bc imma be honest I don’t remember learning that