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No, instead you refer to us as 'unenlightened,' which is essentially the same thing. Name_Taken, most people do believe in a God, but this God is not the Judeo-Christian God.

Thanks, much appreciated for the help in the argument.

I know the full 3 letters that form the word 'you' are hard to type out, because you are so pressed for time, but it would be appreciated if you could in future.

We as a community decide our rights. Your God does not decide our rights. One day murder may be commonly accepted, but that would be the choice of that society. I was trying to interchange some of my words into a quote of yours. I hope you got the meaning instead of just reading it...

Ad hominem attacks are not appreciated. Try argue like a grown-up, and attempt to spell thanks.

Thanks Kanye. After reading Scorch's arguments, I can largely attest to the fact that he is guided by evidence. If someone has a position that is in opposition to his and presents evidence to support their case, I believe Scorch would side with the evidence. Name_Taken, on the other hand...

I'm sorry, I get a bit frustrated when someone as bigoted and backward as Name_Taken is continually undermining the arguments of the people on this board by ignoring the refutations of his points.

If only your religion would allow you to see far enough into the distance so you could see for yourself - there is no abyss. I do get my rights from the law, as does everyone else. Gays currently do not have the right to marry. It doesn't mean it can't change. That's what we're fighting for...

If you have the time to continue to spew crap around this board, then you have the time to back up your arguments. If someone refutes your argument, don't go on spewing the same crap, fight for your argument. It's disgusting enough that you are condemning a group of largely harmless people for...

1) They....don't....need....to... Everything we do does not have to benefit society. How do you benefit society? If anything, your kind are the chains around societies ankles, continually and unashamedly holding us from making real, unhindered progression. And no, there would be a society...

This is just astonishing. Here he is, unable to admit that his 'secular' arguments have been completely and utterly crushed. I'm stumped as to how to reason with him, as reasoning does not work. He just keeps saying the same thing, again and again. Wow...

Like Iron, when Name_Taken is cornered with an argument, he ignores the posts that corner him, and carry on splaying his bullshit all around this board. Go look back, there are two posts you have yet to respond too.

Since you're Catholic, I'm going to assume you know evolution is true (actually, I know you accept evolution, because the Pope said so). This leads me to believe you also know that genes can be suppressed, and turn up in later generations. Considering the fact your very Church has long history...

Name_Taken, as you've said, we have another thread about homosexuality. If you've seen those same arguments of yours refuted, then wouldn't common sense tell you that since this is the same board, this thread will just be a repeat of the last? Although, that is the definition of...

Oh come on Name_Taken! If you're not going to continue your argument, get out of the thread.

Yes, I agree with you. Although if evidence were presented in favour of your case, I would change my opinion to side with evidence. Would you do that if evidence was presented in favour of my case? By evidence, I mean studies presented in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, not Baptist Press...

You fail to see my point. 1. You can never convert an entire society into the Christian belief that sex is sacred, because it's not. The fact that you are a Christian makes your viewpoint blaringly subjective. 2. Why should an entire society have to be under the spell that sex is sacred and...

+1 The purpose of marriage is not to benefit society all the time (although it does benefit society in that a happier society is generally more productive).

Complete abstinence will always work, but it's the equivalent of saying the proper way to stop murder is to stop murdering people. While it is the perfect way of stopping unplanned pregnancies, it is not practical in real life. Birth control provides an effective (not absolute, but >95% is...

Liberty is being infringed the moment gays can't marry their life partner. Stop being ignorant. And yes, I (and the so aptly named 'Sodomy Squad') will continue to chant equality. It is in the same interests for society to legalise same-sex marriage as it was for womens/Aboriginals voting...