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however, from that....i got the impression that he was actually cutting the chains though. it didn't seem to say outright that they were directly threatened. just that he was cutting the chains, and he enjoyed that it scared them that he was doing so

i'm not saying that its a fair thing to attack all vegans and vegitarians based on this, just that the analogy was bad.

only valid if they tortured the animal to eat it, i think and, so, where's the crime? they effectivly broke in, chained themselves to stuff, and then people cut the chains.

wait.....am i misreading this, or did they chain themselves in there, and the owner just came and cut the chains and they felt that they needed to call the police becasue of that?

nice to quote out of context. in fact, it is on topic, considering i'm just pointing out that your entire reason you feel that there is no god is because other people told you so. motives as to why one feels there is or is not a god is on topic, i'd think

well, revenge isn't an emotion, so much as something one wants.

love is the cruelest of emotions, imo

pkc, you do realise the irony of making a statement about opening one's mind when really your only 'contribution', if it can be called that, is to try to argue there is no god just because other people are themselves doubtful the question is "does god exist?", and it isn't relevant to simply...

yeah, the incident itself didnt' kill many, but it did widespread, widespread damage. not to mention it really showcased the potential dangers of nuclear power.

the bigger concern is that i don't think they can do fraudproof anything

Re: wtf is wrong with american kids hotshot, explain HOW a nuke is a defensive weapon if a gun isn't? a gun is a deterant in so much as, if someone thinks you have a gun, or realises you do, they will find someone else to victimise or just outright give up because they don't want to be...

those get brought up, though, because in some cases, the church is aware of it but doesn't act. example: the molestation of children in the catholic church, where it was known by higher officials, who didn't do anything. in some cases the priests even admitted they had a problem, but higher...

i'm going to go out on a limb and say that thats maybe reason enough to not say things one can't back up, then

yes, but, the point is, society is ALWAYS inforcing the morals of the majority. Its very difficult, and I'd think almost unfair, to try differentiate between whose values count and whose don't.

in this case, i mean, i suppose theres no reason not to trust him...i mean, Christians don't lie, right?

there is something ironic here that while most of the people that are taking issue with people beleiving in god based on religion because of a lack of individual critical thought and assessment, you, pkc, seem to be argueing counter to that piece of logic.

however, the flaw of quotes is that they alone dont' form an arguement, so they're not constructive in debate because debates need to deal with facts or claims, not opinions, no matter how notable a person it is just as if someone posted in here and made a statement with no claims and just said...

no, the point is that if you kill someone, and are christian, you're forgiven. where is the sense of morality in that? and you've still not explained what sort of morals i would gain by being christian that i wouldn't have otherwise

Re: wtf is wrong with american kids they tend to be stolen. the purpose of having guns includes protection (both active and passive), self-defense, hunting, and sport guns can be used responsibly, and they ARE used responsibily by the vast majority of gun owners, esp those that own guns...

however, i don't see what rules there are that a christian follows that would better my ethics as a person