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ok...just clearing that up just in case i actually get somewhere and u guys shoot me down for the rong reasons :) anyone else want to add to that defintion...ask moonlight first, as he started the thread...i dont want to assume too much...that's only if i actually get somewhere with it tho... :)

hangon moonlight....if that's how u see it...maybe i can use the quran then to enlighten this thread? because i think i can prove that it is the word of god not through that method shown above? :) but then again u prolly wont believe me...which is sorta why i refrained from bringing in any...

i MAY get 2 out of three...cos i sorta fudged the answer...it seems right, but hopefully they wont notice :)

yeah i know what MY definition is...i asked for YOUR definition...cos apparently my definition may be "biased"...and hence if i try to prove god, i will be shot down on the basis that "god only fits because of your definition"...try again pls?

Moonlight, i must say...of all ur arguments thus far...that last one wasn't really that strong... u are basing ur comment off probability, which according to what we're discussing NOT a logical base for an argument... also, wilmo, by te same argument, ur reasoning for that as a reason for a god...

firstly mate, all religions have a god...unless u claim athiesm to be a religion too... :confused: and no, y DO think urs is the right one and that u follow the right god, but u DONT think people are "ignorant shitheads" - merely misguided...but that's not what's being debated here again...

i dont know if that was intended as a sarcastic comment or not...but i agree, u shouldn't be called stupid or simple...tho wrong is an entirely different matter... as long as in the context they dont mean "wrong in the head" or sumsuch...

no only called them "simple" etc... that is NOT how u act in a debate...keep the slurring to slurring ideas only pls...if u have anything else to say, say it personally thru pm's etc... no need to voice how u feel about others publically...it'll save u the embarrassment of being looked upon as...

which is sorta what we're discussing argonaut...

yes, comrade nathan, it IS a debate for mature people...which is EXACTLY why u dont discredit people...only their IDEAS...obviously u missed that point... i dont think she was offended at u rejecting her ideas, that is expected, but u DONT go around abusing people...say what u want in a nicer...

prolly some, but not much...i heard from my eco teacher, who marked for ten years, that they DO look for diagrams, but who can tell...marking seems to change...the most u'd prolly lose is 2

fighting over who got it first? that's a little childish isn't it? hahaha, i saw it live...when i burnt my own one...BEAT THAT!!! :)

ur_inner_child is right...srsly...its just a few hours...it wont kill u. and u MIGHT regret it...im not gonna deny u might get what u want without trying, but on the off-chance u dont, u WILL be regretting it. not long to go...jsut keep on going...also, ur not gonna die by studying/trying. if...

wow, wilmo, u really outdid not-that-bright with that one...how long did that take u to write? *astonished...not sarcastic* also, chek the one with the poll, i left a little something for u to dissect...i think...or it might have agreed with u...i forget :)

joujou, the problem with the argument isn't in the name...u assume what ur trying to prove... i used this logic many times, but always get stuck at the same point...maybe we're overlooking something, or it's not the way to prove it...just gotta keep searching for now :)

hey moonlight, what do u define as "god"...maybe i can work off that...as there is no real definition for what god is...it sorta gets lost in translation. also, my definition of what god is may be considered "biased" as i follow a religion... pls dont say "an elusive being believed by some to...

thats the infinite regression thing i was trying, only mine was including more than humans...it still faces the same problem...

yeah thats what i found...assuming what is to be proven...however, my argument for god being there is sort of different to what u sed, but in the end, it doesn't offer the logic u seek, my reasoning was as follows: God is the first starter, and is limitless, unlike us humans. no matter what...

mate no one can really say...its just a guess... whether its educated or not is still up in the air... :p

well...i was working on a logical way to prove god...it borrows from what other ppl have dun b4, but they seem to get stuck at about the same place i do...so i was trying to figure a way around it... the way sort of works like, u prove that everything works if god exists through infinite...