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    PROGRESS IS SAUDI ARABIA: First female TV presenter dressed as a ninja

    From the way you have so much conviction in your illogical belief that all muslim women are abused, I'm sure you haven't met a muslim woman, beyond an acquaintance.
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    PROGRESS IS SAUDI ARABIA: First female TV presenter dressed as a ninja

    That wasn't the point. My point was, many people on these forums are insisting that muslim women are mistreated, oppressed and are second class citizens. Though some muslim women are oppressed and mistreated, especially in 3rd world countries, they aren't being treated that way because that is...
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    PROGRESS IS SAUDI ARABIA: First female TV presenter dressed as a ninja

    Well, then how come in the New Testament, in Matthew, the genealogy of Jesus Christ says that he is descended from the illegitimate child of Judah, who you claim you did not like? Is that fine with Christians?
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    PROGRESS IS SAUDI ARABIA: First female TV presenter dressed as a ninja

    Fine, other examples of Islam teaching us we need to abide by the laws of the land: Al-Shaafa’i said: When a Muslim enters dar al-harb (the non-Muslim lands) on peaceful terms, and finds himself in position to take something of their wealth, it is not permissible for him to take it, whether...
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    PROGRESS IS SAUDI ARABIA: First female TV presenter dressed as a ninja

    So you're just going to reject a part of your Bible, because you don't like it? The point of these examples, is, as I've said, is because you keep pointing the finger at Islam, which I was very surprised you did, since your own Bible has such things in it. I told you the reasoning behind the...
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    PROGRESS IS SAUDI ARABIA: First female TV presenter dressed as a ninja

    It wasn't only culture. It was the issue of lifetime. They didn't have life expectancies of eighty, you know. I have a hadith for you, I'm sure there are more, but I haven't memorised the Quran and every hadith. “The Muslims are bound by their conditions.” So, when a muslim migrant comes...
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    PROGRESS IS SAUDI ARABIA: First female TV presenter dressed as a ninja

    I don't get it. Here you are, blatantly criticising Islam, but not realising that had you read the Bible, the story of Lot and his daughters would seem tame compared to the other instances of incest and debauchery. What about Reuben and Bilhah? Judah and his daughter-in-law? Samson and his...
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    PROGRESS IS SAUDI ARABIA: First female TV presenter dressed as a ninja

    Oh, haha. Funny. No 50 year old exists today that is a Prophet. And the conditions that existed in that time, don't exist today. For one thing, there is now something called an age of consent. As muslims, as I've said time and time again, we are supposed to follow the laws of the land we live in.
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    PROGRESS IS SAUDI ARABIA: First female TV presenter dressed as a ninja

    Ok, then go back to Genesis. If Lot isn't important to Christians, (and here I was thinking you guys revered him as a Prophet) tell me. What was the moral point of that story? Why is it in the Bible?
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    PROGRESS IS SAUDI ARABIA: First female TV presenter dressed as a ninja

    I believe I've said this before, so I'll say it again for your benefit. The definition of a child varies from culture to culture, and these definitions are markedly different when you are talking about a society that existed thousands of years ago. In that particular society, a child becomes an...
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    PROGRESS IS SAUDI ARABIA: First female TV presenter dressed as a ninja

    That marriage you are referring to was consummated after she had attained puberty. And you're certainly one to talk. Do you realise that according to your Bible, Genesis 19: 33-35, Lot's daughters became impregnated by their own father?
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    PROGRESS IS SAUDI ARABIA: First female TV presenter dressed as a ninja

    Rape is a hideous, disgusting, horrific crime. Muslim men who commit such atrocities should be punished severely, but that doesn't mean he raped those poor girls because he was muslim. Rape is listed as one of the major sins in Islam, and is forbidden unconditionally, even if some psychotic...
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    PROGRESS IS SAUDI ARABIA: First female TV presenter dressed as a ninja

    Do not heed to local law? You mean, the muslims? Apparently, you don't realise that it is a muslim's duty to abide by the laws of the land in which they live. Yet some muslims disobey this principle to suit their own purposes, though it does not mean that muslims contribute 100% of the black...
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    PROGRESS IS SAUDI ARABIA: First female TV presenter dressed as a ninja

    You're generalising. Stereotypes never define the majority, they just account for a proportion of that particular group.
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    PROGRESS IS SAUDI ARABIA: First female TV presenter dressed as a ninja

    But see, many people don't realise that there is a huge difference between "extremist" Islam, and moderate Islam, which is the kind that the majority of muslims follow. Extremist Islam only exists because a bunch of warped people have twisted their religion. And that's why Islam has such a...
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    PROGRESS IS SAUDI ARABIA: First female TV presenter dressed as a ninja

    Migrants usually tend to have lower educational standards when compared to those born and raised here. They happen to have lower incomes, which does play a role in education. And, migrants aren't only muslim, you know.
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    PROGRESS IS SAUDI ARABIA: First female TV presenter dressed as a ninja

    Many people all over the world have read the Quran in it's original language, and that doesn't affect their interpretation of it at all. If Islam is such an issue, how come so many people, not just in 3rd world countries, adhere to it? Islam, in it's original context is fine, but those who...
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