100% in mathematics (1 Viewer)

[niall045]

hey, I dont really have a very clear understanding of the mathematics and extension 2 business: we dont sit an exam for mathematics but do we get an assumed 100% in that course or something like that? if Lazarus is around could he weigh in please. cheers

 

[velox]

No you dont get 100% in the 2u exam. You do the 3u and 4u exams with each course counting for 2u towards your uai. However it is expected that 4u students would have achieved a band 6 in 2u anyway.

HTH

 

[Jago]

No.

You don't automatically get 100 in Mathematics.

In the 4 units, 2 of those will be based on your ext 2 mark, and the other 2 based on your ext1 mark.

 

[Xayma]

No you dont get 100% in the 2u exam. You do the 3u and 4u exams with each course counting for 2u towards your uai. However it is expected that 4u students would have achieved a band 6 in 2u anyway.

HTH

For the last bit yes and no.

It is written down that if they had sat the Mathematics course they would have been expected to get a band 6 had they gotten a Band E3/4 and a Band 5 had they gotten a Band E1/2

 

[velox]

Ok, sorry. Not many people get e2 or e1 anyway.

 

[JamiL]

For the last bit yes and no.

It is written down that if they had sat the Mathematics course they would have been expected to get a band 6 had they gotten a Band E3/4 and a Band 5 had they gotten a Band E1/2

and somthing like 80% of 4u boyz get a E3 at worst... its quiet amazing.
in the last 20 or so years at my skool, every year my teacher has had a 4u maths class (almost every year, last year 1st tym in like 10 years he didn take the 4u boys) the lowst marks has been 84... than was different this year 4sure with only 2/6 boys getting a band 6. then next highest 88. last tym my teacher took a 4u (2003) class 6/7 bos got a band 6, and 1 just missed out. so as u can see genrally ppl that do 4u, get no less than 80%. if u get lower than this you realy shouldn be in 4u.

 

[HayleeKate]

.....less than 80%. if u get lower than this you realy shouldn be in 4u.

If everyone who got below 80% stopped doing ext 2, then BOS would scale the people just above them down to below 80% and then if they stopped, they'd scale the people just above them down, and then if they stopped, they'd scale the people just above them down etc etc etc...
I say heaps of people below 80% should do ext 2, and do it really poorly, boost up the scaled marks those above 80% lets get a bunch of general kids to pick up 4u and fill up all the below 80$ positions, cos someone's got to fill them.

 

[Estel]

Actually, no.
Scaling in 4u is based on perf. on 3u exam compared with non-4u students
People who suck in 4u inevitably suck in 3u.

 

[SeDaTeD]

Doesn't exactly work like that HayleeKate. If the poorer students drop out, then the overall candidature would be better, thus it'll scale higher. If heaps of crap students do 4u, that'll runi the high scaling it has. Why do you think subs like General don't scale well?

 

[JamiL]

Doesn't exactly work like that HayleeKate. If the poorer students drop out, then the overall candidature would be better, thus it'll scale higher. If heaps of crap students do 4u, that'll runi the high scaling it has. Why do you think subs like General don't scale well?

exactly... that is why 4u scales so well, becuase of the canditure... in scaling they compare how u went in relation 2 the whole state, and how well u would do if the whole state did the test.
i.e if u can average in 4u, and ony 2000 ppl did it (that is prob way off). lets say came in the middle, you would have come 1000 out of 2000 canditure, althou compared to the state u would have come in 1000 out of mabey 50000 ppl (assuming all 4u students are better than 3u students, althou rarely the case).
they expect all 4u students 2 be smarter or more advanced in maths than 2u and genral, and should be more advanced then most 3u student, thus the reason it scales so high. althou in arabic beginners, you could come 1st out of 2000 ppl, but compared to if the whole state sat the test and considering the difficult level of the course you may have come 25000 out 0f 50000...
i prob confused every1 that read this.. lol

 

[Captain pi]

In my opinion, the scaling in Extension 2 is inversely proportional the difficulty of the Extension 1 paper: last year's paper was easy; hence, more-able students did not get very high marks through silly errors.

The harder the Extension 1 paper, the better more-able students will do in it, and the candidature will be adjudged as much more superior to Extension 1 students.

Unfortunately for me, last year, both the Extension 1 and the Extension 2 papers were easy.

 

[Captain pi]

If everyone who got below 80% stopped doing ext 2, then BOS would scale the people just above them down to below 80% and then if they stopped, they'd scale the people just above them down, and then if they stopped, they'd scale the people just above them down etc etc etc...
I say heaps of people below 80% should do ext 2, and do it really poorly, boost up the scaled marks those above 80% lets get a bunch of general kids to pick up 4u and fill up all the below 80$ positions, cos someone's got to fill them.

Not under the performance-based marking system.

In theory, everyone could who presents an examination for a course could recieve the top band – even if their marks were different.

Scaling in General Mathematics is adjudicated by the performance of that candidature in the English paper.

 

[Jenny852]

i still don't really get it...say i perform really really poorly in 4u but get really good in 3u then wat happens in the scaling? ( i'm doing 12 units including 4u~)plzzz. help someone~

 

[shafqat]

your own performances wont affect your individual scaling to any great extent