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The first one's getting old so i decided to start a fresh new one!


Slide Rule said:
This thread is not intended as a place to ask for help. Please make a new thread for that.

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1) No spamming. Please try to stick to strictly answering and questioning. If you have an alternate way of doing a problem, you can post that, too.

2) If you answer a question, try to find a new question for the next person to try. Hard or uncommon textbook questions and and questions from past papers are good places to look.

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Have fun.
Q1 Find

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| x3(x4+1)2 - x2/(x3-1) dx
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Integrate each on its own:
First substitution is u=x^4+1, du=4x^3

Second, u=x^3-1, du=3x^2 dx

So the answer is: (x^4+1)^3/12 - ln(x^3-1)/3 + C

Question 2)

Evaluate the integral of |x^2-9| from -1 to 5, w.r.t. x.
 
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What does the w.r.t.x actually mean? Make x the subject?

∫[-1 to 5] (x2 - 9) dx
= [x3/3 - 9x] [-1 to 5]
= 12
 
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Next question

Using Newtons method twice, solve the equation
logex = cos x has a root near x = 1
 
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I know what it stands for but does it mean just to integrate with x's in the answer?

I should know this but hey :)
 
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Slide Rule said:
Question 2)

Evaluate the integral of |x^2-9| from -1 to 5, w.r.t. x.
Since it is an absolute value, we must split the range.
i.e. we solve x^2-9 >= 0 and x^2-9 < 0
Thus the range -1 ---> 5 becomes -1 ---> 3 and 3 ---> 5 respectively to 9-x^2 and x^2-9

Thus, I = ∫(-1 ---> 5) |x^2-9| dx
= ∫(-1 ---> 3) (9-x^2) dx + ∫(3 ---> 5) (x^2 - 9) dx
= (-1 ---> 3) [9x - x^3/3] + (3----> 5) (x^3/3 - 9x)
= 27 -9 + 9 - 1/3 + 125/3 - 45 - 9 + 27
= 41 1/3 (or 124/3) #
 

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pLuvia said:
I know what it stands for but does it mean just to integrate with x's in the answer?

I should know this but hey :)
It's hard to explain it but it means to differentiate x, treating it as "the variable" and all other terms as constants etc.
 

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Riviet said:
It's hard to explain it but it means to differentiate x, treating it as "the variable" and all other terms as constants etc.
lol I think people understand this concept better once they've studied inverse trig functions to identify the difference between having respect for a pronumeral rather than merely making it the subject. Don't fret if you don't understand this idea fully as yet.
 
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Pluvia said:
Using Newtons method twice, solve the equation
ln x = cos x has a root near x = 1
Let x_1 = 1
f(x) = ln(x) - cos(x) = 0
f'(x) = 1/x + sin(x)

First go:
x_2 = x_1 - f(x_1)/f'(x_1)
= 1 - (ln(1)-cos(1))/(1/1+sin(1))
= 1.9826.........

Second go:
x_3 = x_2 - f(x_2)/f'(x_2)
= 1.9826..... - (ln(1.9826...) - cos(1.9826...))/(1/1.9826... + sin(1.9826...))
= 2.2871......
= 2.287 (3dp) #

Question 4
Prove that [cos(x) - cos(5x) + cos(9x)] / [sin(x) - sin(5x) + sin(9x)] = cot(5x)
 

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Got a hint icycloud?

I had a go at it the other day, havent got anywhere with the proof yet.
 
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Riviet said:
Got a hint icycloud?

I had a go at it the other day, havent got anywhere with the proof yet.
Sure.

Hint:

Group the LHS as:

[cos(x) + cos(9x) - cos(5x)] / [sin(x) + sin(9x) - sin(5x)]

Then use some clever transformation with expansions of cos(A+B), cos(A-B), sin(A+B) or sin(A-B).

If you need another hint, do reply again. =D
 

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icycloud said:
Question 4
Prove that [cos(x) - cos(5x) + cos(9x)] / [sin(x) - sin(5x) + sin(9x)] = cot(5x)
After i learnt a new trig formula today, i suddenly knew what to do:

LHS=[cos9x + cosx - cos5x] / [sin9x + sinx - sin5x]

={2cos[(9x+x)/2]cos[(9x-x)/2]-cos5x} / {2sin[(9x+x)/2]cos[(9x-x)/2]-sin5x}

=(2cos5xcos4x-cos5x) / (2sin5xcos4x-sin5x)

=[cos5x(2cos4x-1)] / [sin5x(2cos4x-1)]

=cos5x/sin5x

=cot5x

=RHS!!! WOOT WOOT! ;D

QED :p

Next Question:

If tan a, tan b, tan y are the roots of the equation x3-(a+1)x2+(c-a)x-c=0 , show that a + b + y = n(pi) + pi/4 , where n is an integer.


P.S This one seems difficult. I personally haven't done it yet!
 
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Riviet said:
Next Question:

If tan a, tan b, tan y are the roots of the equation x3-(a+1)x2+(c-a)x-c=0 , show that a + b + y = n(pi) + pi/4 , where n is an integer.


P.S This one seems difficult. I personally haven't done it yet!

What's the relationship between tan and pi?

I replaced x with tan a which equals zero... and did the same for tan b and tan y.
This makes them all equal to each other...

Therefore (I think): tan a = tan b = tan y

I'm probably wrong... which topic is that question from? Haven't encountered anything similar... confusing :s
 

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It's polynomial rice with a touch of trigonometric sauce. :D
 

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Next Question:

If tan a, tan b, tan y are the roots of the equation x3-(a+1)x2+(c-a)x-c=0 , show that a + b + y = n(pi) + pi/4 , where n is an integer.

P.S This one seems difficult. I personally haven't done it yet!
here goes:

consider tan(A+B+Y)...

i will use this notation: TA = tanA, TB = tanB, TC = tanC

now, tan(A+B+Y) = tan(A+b) + TY / (1 - tan(A+B)*TY)

now, expand further: tan(A+B+Y) = [(TA + TB) / (1- TA*TB)] + TY / (1 - [TY[TA + TB]/(1-TATB)])

then, times numerator and denominator by 1-TATB

SO, tan(A+B+Y) = [TA + TB + TY(1-TATB)] / (1 - TATB - [(TA + TB)TY])...starting to look good now...
tan(A+B+Y) = [TA + TB + TY - TATBTY] / [1 - (TATB + TATY + TBTY)]...looks familiar?
tan(A+B+Y) = ([sum of single roots] - [product of roots]) / (1 - [sum of double roots])
tan(A+B+Y) = [a+1] - [c] / 1 - [c - a] = a+1- c / 1 - c + a = 1

therefore, tan(A+B+Y) = 1

THEREFORE, by the general solution, [tanA = M, A = n(pi) + tan-1M]

(A+B+Y) = n(pi) + tan-1(1) = n(pi) + pi/4, n an integer.

mmmmmm yummy rice and sauce Riviet!
 
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okay, now to continue the grand marathon:

this was posted in the 2U maths marathon thread, but it was deemed too hard for 2U, so instead, it is here:

Question: I am in a poker game, and I am dealt 5 cards from an ordinary 52-card deck. What is the PROBABILITY (hehehe i know people have P'lty) that I will get:
(i) one pair
(ii) a two pair
(iii) a triple
(iv) a straight
(v) a flush
(vi) a full house
(vii) a four-of-a-kind
(viii) a royal flush?
(ix) high card? (ie no poker combinations...i leave this till last cos i think this is the hardest one...)
 

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Nice work with the trig/polynomial question, Mountain Dew; you made it look so much easier. :)
 
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