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Yueting Lu

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I am just thinking that how many people are exactly studying on the topic of Immigrant Chronicle and how many of them can help me with these boring poems?
If I am luckly hope that I can get some messages or even e-mails soon.
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i did immigrant chronicle
that pete skrzy right?

im bored shitless so i will help
what do you wana know
 

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Thanx 4 ur quick reply. Actually I am:read: reading through Migrant Hostel ,which is about a topic i am not interested in at all. I know there is a application of imagery and similey but i just find it hard for me to explain. Or say I don't know if there's a pattern for answering question in HSC. :confused:
Help me OUT!!
 

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tell me what the question is
 

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im doing peter skrzynecki's poems for english advanced at a TAFE
do u do immigrant chronicle for area of study?
im doing immigrants at central station1951, feliks skrzynecki, crossing the red sea, leaving home, migrant hostel, a drive in the country and post card.
do u guys do the same poems?
 

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We are doing exactly the same poems except for a drive in the country. Frankly speaking i don't really poems of this kind of topic. How do you like them? How do you go through them? Any materials that i can share with you?
 

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it will haf a free English seminar on Physical Journeys for
'Immigrant Chronicle' by Peter Skrzynecki
on Monday 22 March 2004, 6.30pm - Mosman Library!!!!
this may be will help u on ur english la!!!!!
 

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peter skrzynecki is coming to my TAFE on Friday does any1 have any questions they want me to ask? I wanna have something to ask him but i dont know what? ne1?
 

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Can you please ask him about how important he thinks his journey is in his poems?And how is his inner journey affected by his outter journey?
 

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hi there,
yeah im studying the immigrant chronicle also! i fully dont get it at all hay, they're so boring!!! is the immigrant chronicle a seperate poem or is it all of the poems?:burn:
 

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the Skrzy came to our school about half way through the year, about two weeks before the trials. He gave a lecture for about 90 minutes on immigrant chronicle and explained a l ot about techniques used in the poems. I'll try to find my notes. No promises though.
 

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heyy

im juz about to start year 12 and im wonderin if anyon has the actually poems and notes on each of them becasu i cant seem to find any on the net:
Feliks Skrzynecki
St patricks college
Ancestors
10 Mary Street
Migrant Hostel
Postcard
In the Folk Museum

thanks
 

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dinaB said:
heyy

im juz about to start year 12 and im wonderin if anyon has the actually poems and notes on each of them becasu i cant seem to find any on the net:
Feliks Skrzynecki
St patricks college
Ancestors
10 Mary Street
Migrant Hostel
Postcard
In the Folk Museum

thanks
You wont find any on the internet. Just wait for the teacher to give you the poems, refer to other year 12's in your school.
I was really lucky this year and had peter s. come to our school and give our year 12 a private lecture because he is friends with one of my teachers. Very interesting to listen to... however he does tend to go onto tangents quiet often.. although it beats paying 50 buck for half an hour of lecture in sydney.
 

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Hey
i had the same problem but then i found this, dont know if it's going to be of any help but it sure helped me :)

Migrant Hostel

Subject: Migrant Hostel is a poem composed by Peter Skrzynecki. It is a moving account of the experiences of migrants living in an overly-crowded lodge. The first stanza captures the temporary nature of the immigrants stay at the hostel; “comings and goings”, “arrivals of newcomers” and “sudden departures”. The second stanza goes on to express the cultural divisions existing within the hostel; “nationalities sought”. The next stanza reminds the responder of the seasonal, short time spent in the hostel and the boredom, tedium and uncertainty which results. The final stanza concludes the poem by creating a strong sense of oppression, explaining that the hostel controlled the migrants’ every action. Overall, Skrzynecki communicates that his stay within Migrant Hostel is a negative experience: chaotic, depersonalised and imprisoning.

Purpose: Skrzynecki’s intention is to uncover the discrimination existing subconsciously within human thought. This relates to the concept of belonging. Belonging is a basic human need. Through cultural groups, age and socio-economic status individuals can gain acceptance by others and in turn, have an entity to belong to. The quote “nationalities sought each other out instinctively” shows that an individual’s primary means differentiation is based on cultural heritage.

Emotions: There are a myriad of negative emotions Skrzynecki experiences during his stay at Migrant Hostel. Feelings of fear, confusion, alienation and isolation all add to a foreboding and animalistic atmosphere. Racial tension is also prevalent as nationalities divide and issues of superiority and stereotyping complicate the social landscape.

Craftsmanship i.e. techniques:
Sound: The use of alliteration is prominent. For example, “no one kept count of all the comings and goings” repeats a harsh, consonantal ‘c’ sound. The strong syllable ‘c’ dehumanises the migrants as there is sense of personal detachment. This is further achieved through a staccato (short, sharp) rhythm to the phrasing. Ultimately, the migrants will forever be the outsider, the eternal alien within a racist white society. The quote “that left us wondering who would be coming next” makes use of the soft ‘w’ sound. This fabricates hopelessness and weakness as the migrants are naive of what is going on around them. Foreigners are manipulated, oppressed and alienated which destroys their chance of truly belonging.

Language: Binary opposition is employed by Skrzynecki. For instance, “to pass in and out of lives that had only begun or were dying” concludes the poem. This contrast of those young and old shows another means of differentiation of migrants staying at the hostel – age. It is also provides two opposing ideologies regarding age: the young have potential and possibility as their lives have “only [just] begun” while the elderly are in effect, “dying” and are no longer valuable within society. This reaffirms stereotypes and discrimination based on age. One’s identity plays a crucial role in with regards to belonging and age can ultimately determine whether or not a person belongs.

Imagery: The simile “like a homing pigeon circling to get its bearings” compares the migrants to a bird. Pigeons travel their entire lives which symbolises the eternal migration of foreigners within Australia. Thus they can never fully belong as a member of the country. Barriers such as discrimination, social unrest and stereotypes exclude migrants from dominant culture. The word ‘circle’ also adds to this eternal battle for migrants. A circle has no beginning or end which emphasises that the struggle to belong is endless and an inherent human need worth fighting for.
Movement: Skrzynecki has a stream of consciousness approach to his poem as each stanza is one train/chain of thought. The use of punctuation creates free-flowing ideas. For example, the dash is used to create enjambment where the idea is continue beyond a couplet. The commas, semi-colons and colons provide pauses, which highlight particular ideas. In the third stanza, for example, Skrzynecki writes “always sensing a change in the weather: unaware of the season whose track we would follow”. The colon continues the idea of seasons throughout the stanza. This holds the poem together, creating uniformity.

Structure: The poem is four stanzas. The first stanza is seven lines, the second eight, the third six and the last eleven. The centre of the poem is the final stanza. Its longer length emphasises its importance. In this stanza Skrzynecki argues that the hostel is “a barrier” to belonging to Australian society. It is the hostel which unfairly categorises the migrants. The tone of the verse is reflective, with Skrzynecki providing memories of “the main gate” and “our doorstep”. Active voice is given to the hostel which undercuts the agency of the migrants. This further alienates them and makes their attempts at belonging futile.

Summary: Australia is a cultural phenomenon – one of the most multicultural nations in the world. Migrant Hostel is poem where its composer Peter Skrzynecki reflects upon the experiences of living in a lodge as a migrant for two years. The concept of belonging is process driven and heavily based on dominant culture. Migrants are excluded and alienated from society due to their cultural identity and social issues such as white superiority, prejudices (e.g. age) and cultural stereotypes. Human beings need to belong to attain unity and associate with others. Migrants achieve this is through cultural groups
 

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i did that this year. there's this reallyy good book that analyses all the poems.

helped me heaps.
 

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