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As a Year 9 student this year, I am planning to pursue 3 Unit maths in Year 12. My school has offered me an accelerated program to undertake Year 10 math this year. Should I accept the offer?

This means I will be sitting the Advanced math HSC exam in Year 11, completing 2 units ahead of schedule, and in my Year 12 HSC year, I will only need to focus on Extension 1 math. Is this advantageous or disadvantageous?

If I don't perform well in the Year 11 Advanced math HSC exam, will I have the opportunity to retake Advanced math in Year 12? How does that work?
Please share your thoughts . Thankyou
 

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It is advantageous
If you think you're able to cope with the workload or comfortable with maths, I recommend accepting the offer as it gives you 2 chances to sit the hsc or extra breathing room for your other subjects if you're satisfied with your results
 

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It is advantageous
If you think you're able to cope with the workload or comfortable with maths, I recommend accepting the offer as it gives you 2 chances to sit the hsc or extra breathing room for your other subjects if you're satisfied with your results
Thank you for response.
So does that mean if my HSC Advanced math exam, sat in Year 11, is not as expected, I can redo it in Year 12? As long as I can redo it, I think it’s an advantage. But the school hasn’t confirmed with me if I can redo it or not. Does anyone have a solid 'yes' that I can resit the exam in Year 12.
 

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Thank you for response.
So does that mean if my HSC Advanced math exam, sat in Year 11, is not as expected, I can redo it in Year 12? As long as I can redo it, I think it’s an advantage. But the school hasn’t confirmed with me if I can redo it or not. Does anyone have a solid 'yes' that I can resit the exam in Year 12.
well technically ur school can't stop u... in nesa's words:
"An accelerating student may be permitted to repeat a course in which they have been accelerated, although this would not be the expectation." and "A candidate may repeat one or more HSC courses but must do so within the five-year accumulation period."
additionally:
"For students repeating a course within the five-year accumulation period, the latest attempt will void the previous results in that course in regard to Higher School Certificate eligibility" so make sure that if u did, u can be sure that u will achieve a higher mark than when u accelerated. just something to keep in mind.
 

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well technically ur school can't stop u... in nesa's words:
"An accelerating student may be permitted to repeat a course in which they have been accelerated, although this would not be the expectation." and "A candidate may repeat one or more HSC courses but must do so within the five-year accumulation period."
additionally:
"For students repeating a course within the five-year accumulation period, the latest attempt will void the previous results in that course in regard to Higher School Certificate eligibility" so make sure that if u did, u can be sure that u will achieve a higher mark than when u accelerated. just something to keep in mind.
where's this from? ive been trying to find nesa guidelines on accelerating for ages
 

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As a Year 9 student this year, I am planning to pursue 3 Unit maths in Year 12. My school has offered me an accelerated program to undertake Year 10 math this year. Should I accept the offer?

This means I will be sitting the Advanced math HSC exam in Year 11, completing 2 units ahead of schedule, and in my Year 12 HSC year, I will only need to focus on Extension 1 math. Is this advantageous or disadvantageous?

If I don't perform well in the Year 11 Advanced math HSC exam, will I have the opportunity to retake Advanced math in Year 12? How does that work?
Please share your thoughts . Thankyou
idk if im too late or not but if you need any more advice and stuff im here

i am accelerating adv math this year (in yr 10 i did both yr 10 math and prelim adv, and this year in y11 i am doing prelim ext 1 and hsc adv) and im expecting to do ext 2 math in yr 12. so basically the difference between me and you is that i didnt do y10 math in y9. im not even sure what the point of accelerating in y9 is? maybe im missing smth.

my only reason for accelerating in this way is because it gets advanced math out of the way in year 11 and allows me to focus on extension in y12. i have around 10 ish extra study periods per fortnight in y12 because of this and this will help me handle the subjects im doing because they are all hard loll

my mindset toward adv math is to obviously not flop it (im at a band 6 level) but also to just cruise by and focus on my extension 1 in y11. the reason is bc my ext 1 marks determine whether or not i go on to do ext 2. and also if i do ext 2 advanced math wont even count anyways.

but it seems like you won't have the luxury to do that since you said you wanted to do 3u math in y12. so what this means is that you have to put a substantial amount of effort into adv math and ext 1 as well. the things you should be considering should be stuff like: can i handle my current year level's work alongside this extra commitment, am i comfortable with advanced math concepts (often those that accelerate advanced math cover content well ahead of time in tutoring so they struggle less in school, you don't have to do this but having an idea could help), do i have extra time to invest in study, do i feel that i can do well despite accelerating the subject, how will i keep on top of my workload, who can i go to for support if i need it etc.

and finally, yeah you should be able to retake advanced math if you do badly, your school shouldn't be able to say no but if they do then you should discuss that further bc you def should be able to.

but the real question is: even though you could, why would you depend on the fact that you could repeat it? at that point how would the extra effort you put into accelerating be different to if you just went the normal route with less effort? of course it would be your decision to make but i would either double down with the mindset that im going to get adv done well in y11 and focus on ext 1 in y12 or choose to go the normal route if i feel like i can't do advanced math justice in y11.

the reason why i say that is because acceleration naturally causes some content to be skipped over a bit if you're doing 2 years worth of content in one, and to some extent you aren't given the same privileges as a hsc student if you are an accelerant. for example, in my school, the accelerants are all in one class and therefore isolated from y12, so even through we get the same past papers and resources we don't have collective study groups or senior study periods and all that helpful stuff available to us as we still count as y11 students overall. also we often have our y11 and y12 exam blocks very close to each other and no additional support/days off school for study are provided for us. you should look into how this might affect you in your specific situation or whether or not it affects you.

The bottom line is that i'm not discouraging you, but do it only if you feel like it's worth it for you, and don't be afraid to drop it if you are struggling. math is not the only subject you'll be doing in the hsc so consider your workload and priorities and seek advice from teachers and other people that might have done this same accelerated program (you can dm me with any questions too).
 

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Hello there! Taking the accelerated math program has both advantages and disadvantages:

Advantages:

Early Completion: Completing Advanced math in Year 11 allows you to focus solely on Extension 1 math in Year 12, potentially boosting your overall HSC marks.
Skill Development: It helps you develop strong study habits and time management skills.

Disadvantages:

Increased Pressure: The accelerated pace can be challenging and stressful.
Grade Risk: Poor performance in Year 11 might impact your confidence and results.

Retaking Exams:

Retake Opportunity: Most schools allow retaking the Advanced math HSC exam in Year 12 if needed, but check with your school for specific policies.

Consider your readiness, support system, and overall workload before deciding. Discuss with your teachers and family for personalized advice.

Good luck!
 

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If I don't perform well in the Year 11 Advanced math HSC exam, will I have the opportunity to retake Advanced math in Year 12? How does that work?
Please share your thoughts . Thankyou
My school does not allow us to repeat and in the case that we do, we are unable to do ext2 which in my opinion has to be the most brainless policy to exist. I accelerate ext1 as of right now and I believe, If you do intend to accelerate (especially for e1 or 2), then I think (from experience) that you will likely need to sacrifice one or two of your yr 11 subjects to stay afloat. I'm unsure as to how the experience would be like to do only advanced only so take this with a grain of salt. Note though, if you go to a high rank private school or selective school then there is a good chance they may not let you repeat due to the demand within cohorts.
 
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My school does not allow us to repeat and in the case that we do, we are unable to do ext2 which in my opinion has to be the most brainless policy to exist.
Well if your clearly unable to do well in 2u to the point that you want to repeat then why would they even let u do 4u? Seems logical to me (unless ur talking about 3u but still..)
 

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Well if your clearly unable to do well in 2u to the point that you want to repeat then why would they even let u do 4u? Seems logical to me (unless ur talking about 3u but still..)
I'm referring to 3u but its not as simple as the e4 either because its your rank that you'd care about more as this will have a decent contribution towards your atar. There are students who have recieved HDs in unsw math comps, got medals and other awards in the maths space in my class that got screwed on one exam for 3u and now they are projected to get low e4s when they were aiming for high e4s. Stuff like this gets confusing as there are students who are clearly capable of doing 4u who are then given the really hard decision as to if they go back to the normal course and get assured pathway to 4u and redo that way orrr test their luck on the hsc and see if they can achieve their desired score and risk their atar contribution for maths.
 

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not to be rude but you don't understand how hard that decision is because this is a course that has spanned since yr7 in my school and so all that time is wasted in the case you do go back to the normal stream. Some go as far as to sacrificing other subjects in order to maximise their mathematics marks in yr 11 so there is a level of regret in your mind once you go back to the normal stream as by that time, you've lost accolade from a course you no longer partake in.
 
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