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everyone prepared for this?
damn it looks like its going to suck ass

do u know if we need to know how to calculate all that returns and variance mumbo jumbo?
cause the formulas make no sense at all
 

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hell no not prepared...thank god it's at 2 so i can study a bit more tomorrow morning.
I'm trying to learn all the formulas, don't know if we need to...but yeah like u the variance, covariance etc formulas are confusing the shit out of me :(
 

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until you told me
i thought the test was at 10 again
damn thats gonna cost me $140 at work =\
grr

but seriosuly? we gotta remember all those formulas?
thats screwed man
those formulas are crazy as hell
 

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Yeah I thought it was at ten again too lol
I hope we don't have to do that cov and rho and shit
 

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i dunno man
im pretty screwed
i dont know a thing
and its so hard trying to know
theres so much to take in
 

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yes. how gay. saturday ffs!!

i am decent(good enough to pass i think) with the NPV stuff from accg101 and acst101. so i havent read the text or done tutes for that yet.

going thru that chapter 11 in the text....very....very....slowly. i swear i nearly lost it when trying to go thru the example on expected returns.

i found a little trick (i dont know if its a trick or not. lets call it one)

expected return on an asset:
E(R) = (RA1 x p1) + ... + (RAn x pn)
RAn = return on the asset 'A' in a state of econ 'n'
pn = prob. of the nth s.o.e. occuring.


expected return of a portfolio:
E(RP) = (RP1 x p1) + ... + (RPn x pn)
RPn = return of portfolio in state of econ 'n'**
pn = prob. of the nth s.o.e. occuring.

**how to find RPn, ie the return on a portfolio, given a certain s.o.e. 'n'
RPn = (RAn x #A) + (RBn x #B) + ...
RAn, return on the asset, given boom/bust
#A, proportion of asset 'A'

so the two relate in a way. anyways, hope that helps out. and good way to make sure i still remember it from 2 hrs ago.

i havent come across the covariance/rho bullshit yet. hope it isnt too bad. and stat comes in use somehow.
 

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What's the trick?

I thought it just does that in like, the next line.

Actually, I thought SML was pretty easy.
And then they started developing it, with like ten million extra lines and suddenly there's a rho and it's CML. So I just skipped that and wrote down the CML formula... I'm so boned.
 

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ReaveR said:
What's the trick?

I thought it just does that in like, the next line.

Actually, I thought SML was pretty easy.
And then they started developing it, with like ten million extra lines and suddenly there's a rho and it's CML. So I just skipped that and wrote down the CML formula... I'm so boned.
i dont know :eek:

leave me alone. :(

i thought i might point out that the E(R) for assets or portfolios is essentially the same thing. like, your portfolio is an asset. same with the variances for the two, really similar.

the sound of things like CMP, CAPM, SML, just scares the shit out of me. there is too much to do!!!!

you reckon doing an all nighter is a really really bad idea?? i dunno wtf is going to happen. (i bet i'll quit and go to sleep in the next hour)
 

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Sorry, I had gone to sleep already :eek:

Cheers for pointing that out!
As you can see I'm up bright and early to attempt to study, but I've been up an hour and haven't done anything lol

Good luck everyone
 

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lol
ive been up since 9
and i can tell ya
not good mate
not good at all
at the moment
*shakes head
 

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How was it everyone?

I found it better than I thought it would be..
 

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yeah it was good!

what did you guys get for NPV? -16 000??
this guy next to me said he got ~-2 000 (but he said that he received a tax benefit for the 40 000 outlay, i didnt do that. i am pretty sure he is of the incorrect)

and for teh 2nd part in q1, rho = 1?

i think i'll get better than test 1!!
 

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lol, I couldn't be bothered to study chapter 8 so I made the last question up, my NPV wasn't around -2000 though, and I didn't have any tax benefits.

And yeah cor. coeff. should be 1.

I should do much better than I did in test 1, the rest of the test as good!
 

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i think i had tax benefits for 3 of the 4 periods.
 

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lol. its when you have negative taxable income. so instead of paying the govt money on your taxable income, the govt pay you tax for have a negative taxable income.
 

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redruM said:
lol. its when you have negative taxable income. so instead of paying the govt money on your taxable income, the govt pay you tax for have a negative taxable income.
Oh right, I had three negative taxable incomes.
 

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yeah so the taxable income x 0.3 = tax paid. tax paid on negative taxable incomes is an inflow, unlike the usual tax paid, an outflow.
 

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omg i died
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it was a terrible exam mate
so terrible

for the "can a strong form efficient market be weak form inefficient. why or why not?"
i wrote
"yes it can"
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and the stupid lady she wasted so much time trying to make sure there was 1 space in between each person
gee
what happened to trust
 

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lol trust?

i would have cheated if i had the chance. :D

for that strong/weak form i just made up bs. strong form uses full info, weak form uses historical info. so if we have an efficient strong, we will have efficient weak. hahah sounds so not right.
 

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