Another Cronulla, but in Melbourne (2 Viewers)

[sparkl3z]

again, this is to do with education, it is more likely for a bunch of high school drop outs to go out and cause trouble than for someone who has diplomas to do the same thing, their parents just don't behave as parent's, imo. too many spoilt kids.

 

[StGeorgeDragons]

good on ya sasha, ur the man. Y don't u head down to melbourne and have a riot with ur other anti lebanese??

The funny thing is, you are the one that doesnt learn. If lebanese youths get into a fight, whats it ur business, let the law take care of it. Nah, u just wanna publicise how bad they are, u think thatll do anything? U know as well as i do, all this business does is increase tension between racial groups, only worsening the problem. Sasha ... your acting as the media, with the same goals as the media, u just wanna create a stir, well good for u. Go down to melbourne and start a riot.

And from now on whenever theres a fight anywhere in the world, post it on Boredofstudies.org

 

[SashatheMan]

good on ya sasha, ur the man. Y don't u head down to melbourne and have a riot with ur other anti lebanese??

The funny thing is, you are the one that doesnt learn. If lebanese youths get into a fight, whats it ur business, let the law take care of it. Nah, u just wanna publicise how bad they are, u think thatll do anything? U know as well as i do, all this business does is increase tension between racial groups, only worsening the problem. Sasha ... your acting as the media, with the same goals as the media, u just wanna create a stir, well good for u. Go down to melbourne and start a riot.

And from now on whenever theres a fight anywhere in the world, post it on Boredofstudies.org

your like argonaut. your neighbour could be gettings killed , and your turn your back sayign well its not my problem, why should i get involved. lets just egnore the murderer and hope nothing happens to be. Oh look theres another homicide in the house opposite you, but i am not gonna tell the police, afterall i dont wanna stir things up. tsk tsk. when yuo go to a club, and start talking to some girl only to find some lebo with 5 of his bros saying "what the fuk you looking at my girl for" , or getting bottled in the head, and then while your on the ground getting kicked by 5 lebs, (the scene i saw last saturday), then youll care abit more. You prob just dont go out, and dont know whats in the real world. you prob just, sit at yuor computer, masterbating to scat porn.

 

[Captain Gh3y]

good on ya sasha, ur the man. Y don't u head down to melbourne and have a riot with ur other anti lebanese??

The funny thing is, you are the one that doesnt learn. If lebanese youths get into a fight, whats it ur business, let the law take care of it. Nah, u just wanna publicise how bad they are, u think thatll do anything? U know as well as i do, all this business does is increase tension between racial groups, only worsening the problem. Sasha ... your acting as the media, with the same goals as the media, u just wanna create a stir, well good for u. Go down to melbourne and start a riot.

And from now on whenever theres a fight anywhere in the world, post it on Boredofstudies.org

How much would have to happen before you would accept there was a disproportinately high amount of crime or gang activity etc. by a particular minority group?

 

[StGeorgeDragons]

your like argonaut. your neighbour could be gettings killed , and your turn your back sayign well its not my problem, why should i get involved. lets just egnore the murderer and hope nothing happens to be. Oh look theres another homicide in the house opposite you, but i am not gonna tell the police, afterall i dont wanna stir things up. tsk tsk. when yuo go to a club, and start talking to some girl only to find some lebo with 5 of his bros saying "what the fuk you looking at my girl for" , or getting bottled in the head, and then while your on the ground getting kicked by 5 lebs, (the scene i saw last saturday), then youll care abit more.

i know that some of them are really bad, u dont need to explain that. This is an economical problem, not a racial one. U dont need to campaign for riots. Even though i dont agree with these specific, "middle eastern attacks", have u noticed that they are always provoked, and obviously they are provoked easily. Youths of migrants are always gonna have issues, and not racial issues but economic issues, the parents are uneducated, dont speak english and unemployed in these cases.

And about getting involved, these crimes happen all the time, regardless of race, sex. What we are doing is isolating the ethnic cases. A lebanese criminal isnt any worse than a white australian one.

And in response to the comment about the "murders", u only wanna get involved when the murderer is of middle eastern appearance.

 

[Captain Gh3y]

My mother's parents did not speak english when they arrived here in 1955. There were also no multicultural-grants and what-not back then to help them out. They also had no formal qualifications valid in this country and were poor. They worked as a laborer and cleaner for absurdly long hours. My mother turned out just fine.

Now, anecdotes are pretty useless on their own, but the thing is that the same applies for a very large percentage of the population - most of us are migrants, children of migrants or grandchildren of migrants.

Many of these migrants that make up a considerable portion of the population were also very poor when they arrived.

The Greeks, Italians, Vietnamese and of course the Germans all fit the above. Christian Lebanese are going pretty well too, even if they were poor.

Why make excuses for one group? The problem couldn't possibly just be economical.

 

[SashatheMan]

i know that some of them are really bad, u dont need to explain that. This is an economical problem, not a racial one. U dont need to campaign for riots. Even though i dont agree with these specific, "middle eastern attacks", have u noticed that they are always provoked, and obviously they are provoked easily. Youths of migrants are always gonna have issues, and not racial issues but economic issues, the parents are uneducated, dont speak english and unemployed in these cases.

if you think looking at them, is provoking, or talking to a girl that one of the guys is going out with all of a sudden , or asking not to play soccer on the beach where people are taning, if you think these are provoking then, well fuck that its a problem that should be stopped.

And about getting involved, these crimes happen all the time, regardless of race, sex. What we are doing is isolating the ethnic cases. A lebanese criminal isnt any worse than a white australian one.

yes both criminal acts are bad, but it seems, lebonese crimes are swept under the carpet, and you encourage it.

And in response to the comment about the "murders", u only wanna get involved when the murderer is of middle eastern appearance

i was giving an example of how you egnore crime, i could have said, did a break and enter, and beat up the residents of the two houses.

 

[SashatheMan]

My mother's parents did not speak english when they arrived here in 1955. There were also no multicultural-grants and what-not back then to help them out. They also had no formal qualifications valid in this country and were poor. They worked as a laborer and cleaner for absurdly long hours. My mother turned out just fine.

Now, anecdotes are pretty useless on their own, but the thing is that the same applies for a very large percentage of the population - most of us are migrants, children of migrants or grandchildren of migrants.

Many of these migrants that make up a considerable portion of the population were also very poor when they arrived.

The Greeks, Italians, Vietnamese and of course the Germans all fit the above. Christian Lebanese are going pretty well too, even if they were poor.

Why make excuses for one group?

exactly. when my family came here we were poor. doesnt mean i run around the streets in gangs and beat people because they provoke me.

 

[sparkl3z]

i didnt say poor. poor people tend to actually work harder to get what they want (when they come to a place like australia) they can become successful at some point in their lives. to the contrary, i think the kids on the streets causing trouble are not poor at all, they have wealth( or where would they get the bmw flash cars?) they are not thieves either, because their parents are already wealthy, but, they don't have an education or people that tell them what's wrong and where to stop so they just keep on causing trouble, thinking that they are "tough" and girls will like them, that is all their lives revolve around, which is actually the most illogical logic i've seen in my life.

 

[StGeorgeDragons]

exactly. when my family came here we were poor. doesnt mean i run around the streets in gangs and beat people because they provoke me.

did ur parents discipline you??? its not about being rich or poor. Its more education and employment of both the parents and the youths. Because the parents havnt intergrated into the society, the youths havnt as well. The more you make this a social issue, and not let the law take care of it, the less they are gonna intergrate.

 

[SashatheMan]

i didnt say poor. poor people tend to actually work harder to get what they want (when they come to a place like australia) they can become successful at some point in their lives. to the contrary, i think the kids on the streets causing trouble are not poor at all, they have wealth( or where would they get the bmw flash cars?) they are not thieves either, because their parents are already wealthy, but, they don't have an education or people that tell them what's wrong and where to stop so they just keep on causing trouble, thinking that they are "tough" and girls will like them, that is all their lives revolve around, which is actually the most illogical logic i've seen in my life.

your forgetting your religion and why you follow.

 

[SashatheMan]

did ur parents discipline you??? its not about being rich or poor. Its more education and employment of both the parents and the youths. Because the parents havnt intergrated into the society, the youths havnt as well. The more you make this a social issue, and not let the law take care of it, the less they are gonna intergrate.

employment related to wealth, and as yuo said its not a factor.

i agree with you education is an important factor. but dont you think thats a problem?

 

[StGeorgeDragons]

employment related to wealth, and as yuo said its not a factor.

i agree with you education is an important factor. but dont you think thats a problem?

The problem makers are UNEDUCATED AND UNDISCIPLINED AUSTRALIANS, caused by the nature of immigration.

Some parents have come and have not intergrated into australian society and because of this their children are uneducated and undisclipined. This isnt all immigrants. Perhaps these parents who immigrated didnt want to and were forced by war meaning they wont intergrate, unlike most of the christian lebanese who have been in Australia for 100's of years and have intergrated.

 

[sparkl3z]

your forgetting your religion and why you follow.

i don't have a religion :S

 

[malkin86]

Slightly OT - Is anyone else going to Cronulla tomorrow for the show?

 

[Captain Gh3y]

The problem makers are UNEDUCATED AND UNDISCIPLINED AUSTRALIANS, caused by the nature of immigration.

Some parents have come and have not intergrated into australian society and because of this their children are uneducated and undisclipined. This isnt all immigrants. Perhaps these parents who immigrated didnt want to and were forced by war meaning they wont intergrate, unlike most of the christian lebanese who have been in Australia for 100's of years and have intergrated.

Hundreds of years? Umm, Australia has only existed for about 200 years altogether.

Education is fairly well compulsory, you know. Once again, it isn't just Muslim Lebanese immigrants that have not integrated. There are most probably examples of immigrants from every culture that have not integrated, or even learned English.

Why no problems with their kids?

 

[jeremiahk]

I don't mean to be gay but, after reading that.

Its IGNORE, WITH AN I not EGNORE.

The papers and the public need to realise the difference between "racially motivated" and "culturally linked."

 

[Captain Gh3y]

did ur parents discipline you??? its not about being rich or poor. Its more education and employment of both the parents and the youths. Because the parents havnt intergrated into the society, the youths havnt as well. The more you make this a social issue, and not let the law take care of it, the less they are gonna intergrate.

On the last page you clearly said it was an economic issue. You know quite well that most of the population are children of immigrants, or at least grandchildren of immigrants. Many immigrants never integrate. But why, why is their such a particular problem with Muslim Lebanese? How many generations will it take until they start getting jobs and being 'disciplined'?

(btw it's also quite possible that there are parents out there who due to whatever circumstances, are unemployed, but still give their kids good discipline. You can't label all unemployed people, that's just as bad as the whole racism thing)

 

[StGeorgeDragons]

Hundreds of years? Umm, Australia has only existed for about 200 years altogether.

Education is fairly well compulsory, you know. Once again, it isn't just Muslim Lebanese immigrants that have not integrated. There are most probably examples of immigrants from every culture that have not integrated, or even learned English.

Why no problems with their kids?

There is problems with their kids, we're talking about a very small portion of the lebanese youths here who actuall commit crimes. There are youths from most if not every culture who commit crimes, and maybe, god forbid, there are even some anglo saxon criminals.

 

[StGeorgeDragons]

On the last page you clearly said it was an economic issue. You know quite well that most of the population are children of immigrants, or at least grandchildren of immigrants. Many immigrants never integrate. But why, why is their such a particular problem with Muslim Lebanese? How many generations will it take until they start getting jobs and being 'disciplined'?

(btw it's also quite possible that there are parents out there who due to whatever circumstances, are unemployed, but still give their kids good discipline. You can't label all unemployed people, that's just as bad as the whole racism thing)

Most of the immigrant population raises there children to be aussies. These lebanese muslims obviously dont.

I agree with you of coarse, How many generations will it take until they start getting jobs and being 'disciplined'? Having riots against them and being racist is only seperating them further from the australian community, and cause them to continue the trend of their parents, there gonna raise their children the way their parents raised them.