agreed.williamc said:I fucking hate all this left wing propaganda.. we need a fucking de-centralised wage determination system.. i think the government should be able to censor this left wing loonie questions.
Haha! If I were in any other exam except for Economics .. I would've been ridiculously biased! But if I did it in Eco, with my luck I'd get a Greenie and a Labor voter marking my essay and they'd be like 'Pft giver her 0 .. I don't agree with any of this'.williamc said:I choose not to do that question.. coz i knew i would be biased.. And the markers would get the feeling... This guy is a right wing extremist.. why dont u just go and suck JH's cock..
I would given the chance though..
I know it's not hard. I wrote a completely unbiased essay. But when you have strong opinions about something, such as politics .. it can be hard. I can see why it could be hard to.Bonarius said:Maaaaaaaaaate cmon its not that hard to write an unbiased essay. Thats what the syllabus is for. Advantages and Disadvantages of each system and all you had to do was practically outline the changing work practices. ITs not that hard.
Lol i know its not hard, i could have written about it, my post was aimed at being comedic.Bonarius said:Maaaaaaaaaate cmon its not that hard to write an unbiased essay. Thats what the syllabus is for. Advantages and Disadvantages of each system and all you had to do was practically outline the changing work practices. ITs not that hard.
thats what janette told me.bringbackshred said:Apparently he's hung like a rogue elephant.
No I think they should be included. It's in the syllabus after all, we learn about, do assessments on it .. but I can see how people can find it hard to be unbiased, that's all.village-idoit36 said:Are you suggesting that Labour Markets should be excluded from assesment just bacuase people have strong opinions about it?
When the HSC exam writers emerge from their coffins every year, they don't exactly convene around John Howard effegies when they plan the extended response questions. They expect a balanced evaluation. For instance, I'm the opposite to you- the die-hard Labor guy. But that doesn't mean that I can't outline the arguements that the other guys keep throwing at me.
Economics teachers (unless you are really unfortunate anyway) generally tend to be open-minded when it comes to marking. I mean, look at the question -
Work Practices is where you throw in all the pro-Labor propaganda
Unemployment is where you thow in all the pro-Government propaganda.
Fair enough. As long as we managed to stay balanced though, I rekon the markers will will be fair.Sh4DoW said:No I think they should be included. It's in the syllabus after all, we learn about, do assessments on it .. but I can see how people can find it hard to be unbiased, that's all.
There could also be an opposing arguement to both:
Work Practices- could be pro-Labor propaganda, but you could also talk about how it's encouraged productivity increases through motivating employees to become more productive in order to improve their wages and conditions when negotiating new agreements.
Unemployment- could be the pro-Government propaganda, but you could also throw in the Labor arguement that WorkChoices loosens unfair dismissal laws and gives employers more scope to dismiss employees (resulting in greater unemployment).
I hate to say it, but you are all wrong....Jerruy said:Question 27.
Explain how Australia's labour market policies have affected work practices and emploument.
Well, all I can say is it is good for you that you did the other option. I mean, someone who obviously has their head so far up their own arse to the extent that they refuse to admit that there are any arguements that oppose them would be better off doing a nice safe globalisation case study.williamc said:(lol we know we would have to state the pros and cons, its not hard.)
WTF workchoices has NO cons at all.
-Business' can produce goods cheaper with lower wages
-Lower prices of goods means employee's arnt being ripped off with lower wages, and can still buy what they want.
-Inflation will be kept at a more low and stable rate.
-Business' can become more internationally competitive.
-Business' will be forced to innovate their products to remain competitive, thus benefits consumers.
-Lower levels of unemployment. At 4.3% (sep 07), which is 32 year low.
-In the long term the efficent sectors of our economy will become major employers and further extend our current 16 year boom(JH FTW)!. IMO aiming to rid manufaturing sector.
-HIGHER LIVING STANDARDS.
Aslong as you got some qualifications, or are interested for a job in high demand, your all sweet. Workchoices provides incentives for people to get higher qualifications which can only benfit our economy. SCREW THE BUMS.
Then some would say people have to work harder and longer for less.. HOW IS THAT BAD! Goods will be cheaper theerfore even lower peoples income levels will be lower, their MPC will proally stay relative.
Also, some say it induces income inequality. HOW IS THAT BAD! Why shouldn't someone with superior skills earn a superior income? It is only going to encourage the lower skilled workers to further skill themselves. This is going to further decrease the rate of unemployment:
-an economics student should know that once the natural rate of unemployment has been reached (as the case in aus, well close to) any macroeconomic measures to inject (AD) more money into the economy through macroeconomic measures will prove futile and only cause inflationary pressure. The Howard government in the last budget cut taxes, this will NOT lower the unemployment rate and how only increased inflationary expectations. It is hard to critise the Howard government however, as they are playing the 3 year 'political cycle'. The only way to lower unemployment once the natural rate has been reached is through education and training. AND THIS IS WHAT WORKCHOICES ENCOURAGES.
"Abolished sick leave is unfair......But trillions of dollars debt for our children is just bullshit"
1) i could have got 20 doing either question ..village-idoit36 said:Well, all I can say is it is good for you that you did the other option. I mean, someone who obviously has their head so far up their own arse to the extent that they refuse to admit that there are any arguements that oppose them would be better off doing a nice safe globalisation case study.
Honestly, I (Mr harcore Labor man) can admit that there are some economic benefeits to workchoices. After all, slavery was the most cheap and efficient of all workplace systems (and before you say it, I am not comparing Workchoices to slavery).
Honestly - surely you have to admit that the whole reason workchoice helps the economy is because it erodes the rights of the employees.
Eroding the rights of employees classifies as a "con".
natt256 said:Williamc, you my friend are a wanker...
I don't doubt for a second that you’re as good at economics as you say you are (which you repeatedly allude to in these forums)
Im sure you'll get very very rich, live a prosperous life blah blah blah wank.
However, I wholeheartedly agree that your head is stuck up your arse and you obviously have no concept of the real world & real issues.
So enjoy the capitalist life you'll lead, because you sure as hell won’t ever experience life, nor will you ever develop a social conscious because you’re obviously an unintuitive apathetic person.
And for the record, I don’t believe in a fully centralised wage system, but I believe workchoices is not in the best interest for this country as the negative social repercussions outweigh the economic gain.
Ill offer some advice, which im sure you won’t take, but what the hell!...Get over yourself, get over the hsc, maybe even go travel? Broaden your horizons... try your very hardest to understand how the world works... because until you do your opinion means nothing to me... nor should it to anyone else because you know nothing..
p.s maybe your inability to fully comprehend economics and the real impacts of policies will mean you wont go as well as you believe? Such a shame..
williamc said:Of course in economic policy making soceital impacts must be assessed. Obiviously Costello, JH and his advisers have more of an idea about how things work than you. The funny thing is australians are as happy as they have ever been(australia ranking 7th?), people are earning more, more people are employed. why the fuck would we want to go backwards?
Anyways in response to your personal insults; YOU'RE A FUCKING CHICK, you don't belong in the economic world.