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approximate raw mark on HSC exam for band 6 (90+)? (2 Viewers)

fozzster22

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what is the raw mark I would have to get on each of the following subjects to get a band 6?

-extension 1/2 maths
-chemistry
-physics
-advanced english

this would help me know if I'm on the right track for how well I'm doing on practice tests and such, thanks.

sorry if this is the wrong board i don't quite know where to put this.
 

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Raw internal mark? I don't think anyone knows.
 

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External marks do not get moderated. So there is no such thing as "raw external mark".
 

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chewy123 said:
External marks do not get moderated. So there is no such thing as "raw external mark".
wait, what ?
 

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chewy123 said:
External marks do not get moderated. So there is no such thing as "raw external mark".
what???!!!

Yes there is. RAW EXTERNAL MARK is called HSC RAW mark. It's the actual HSC mark you got.
 

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Really? That's news to me then.
I know internal get moderated because every school does different assessments.
But why would HSC mark be moderated? The UAC would just look at your percentile.
 

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chewy123 said:
Really? That's news to me then.
I know internal get moderated because every school does different assessments.
But why would HSC mark be moderated? The UAC would just look at your percentile.
Top 30% in 3u/4u get band 6's.

They get a panel of judges to look at the exam and determine the cut-off marks for specific bands according to the difficulty of the exam.

So a simple 60%+ raw mark could scale to a band 6, and technically speaking if all studnets get a 60%+raw mark, they all get band 6.
 

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tommykins said:
Top 30% in 3u/4u get band 6's.

They get a panel of judges to look at the exam and determine the cut-off marks for specific bands according to the difficulty of the exam.

So a simple 60%+ raw mark could scale to a band 6, and technically speaking if all studnets get a 60%+raw mark, they all get band 6.
I see I see. I learnt another new thing today:D .
 

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chewy123 said:
I see I see. I learnt another new thing today:D .
It changes year to year, sometimes only 3% of studnets get band 6 and sometimes 20-30% get band 6.
 

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tommykins said:
It changes year to year, sometimes only 3% of studnets get band 6 and sometimes 20-30% get band 6.
Seem pretty wierd to me anyway. Your percentile won't be affected, scaling don't seem to serve any purpose apart from aesthetic.
 

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chewy123 said:
Seem pretty wierd to me anyway. Your percentile won't be affected, scaling don't seem to serve any purpose apart from aesthetic.
It's funny that people stress over scaling so much when it's out of their control. Should just do what you can and you will get waht you deserve.
 

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well people have been giving very vague answers!
but i know that for ext 1 for the past few years its been approx 70% and over
and for ext 2 its been high 80s+/120
thats what ive been told by my teacher who marks the exams
for english prob high 87+%
hope that helps..i really dont know about the others sorry
 

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tommykins said:
It's funny that people stress over scaling so much when it's out of their control. Should just do what you can and you will get waht you deserve.
Well, say I am in yr 12 and want to drop a subject.
I am doing moderately good in PD/H/PE with 80%
I am doing moderately good in Math with 80%
I like both subject equally.
This is when scaling comes to play.
But besides that it probably have no affect on you.
 

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lyounamu said:
what???!!!

Yes there is. RAW EXTERNAL MARK is called HSC RAW mark. It's the actual HSC mark you got.
and by the way, yeah thats true, although we never know what our raw hsc mark is..thats prob why they think there is no external raw mark lol
 

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tommykins said:
It's funny that people stress over scaling so much when it's out of their control. Should just do what you can and you will get waht you deserve.
yer, i have no idea whats going on. Ill just do the tests and hope they give me something nice.
 

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nice

so wat raw mark do i need or wat do ppl get on average in there externals if any1 no's to get:

economics to get a band 6
business band 6
bio band 4-5
maths general band 5-6
english advanced band 4-5
 
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it changes year to year according to the difficulty of the examination.. so you don't really know. However, if you really wanna know an estimation of what mark you would need in a particular subject then use "search" i'm sure past HSC students have posted about such things.

From what i know math ext 1 you probably need 70% (give or take) to get band 6. and in math ext 2 65%? (give or take). Generally, a large percentage of people who do extension courses tend to get band 6s.
 

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berna007 said:
[..] although we never know what our raw hsc mark is..thats prob why they think there is no external raw mark lol
ok so basically no one REALLY knows what raw % you need to get on the external exams to get a band 6 since BOS doesn't release the data?

that's really useful, great.

but as for speculation (lol) the general consensus is:

ext 1 : 70%+
ext 2: 65%+
chem: 85%+
phys: 90%+
eng adv.: 90%+

would you guys agree with this?

thanks
 

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