are you rich? if yes, you're automatically a liberal voter. (2 Viewers)

[Iron]

Rudd's a populist and will do whatever it takes to maintain his high in the opinion polls, even if the Australian public is completely wrong.
Howard was a socially out of touch economic warrior, who did whatever it took to advance Australian standards of living, no matter what the public though of him.

Yeah I miss that conviction.
Who are the great conviction politicians today? This Rove/Blair era of spin has knocked the wind out of politics imo. Theyre very good at convincing you that theyre on you side and therefore avoiding epic political fights of, idk, the Thatcher era.
It's a farce that today Rudd can get up and vomit all over neo-liberalism, but, with a straight face, offer total support for globalisation. So much contradiction and double-speak!

Political parties agree on too many things and the public dont believe in enough. It's a disaster for democracy imo

Demand truth in politics!

 

[Lentern]

Rudd's a populist and will do whatever it takes to maintain his high in the opinion polls, even if the Australian public is completely wrong.
Howard was a socially out of touch economic warrior, who did whatever it took to advance Australian standards of living, no matter what the public though of him.

Dear oh dear oh dear. Blessed be those who don't full for political narratives, there's is enlightenment forever. Iron puts the icing on the cake with "conviction politician. " Same people who thought Latham was going to win by a landslide when he first took the leadership. I anticipate bringing up of gun laws, waterfront, GST, IR and Iraq as evidence of all that "conviction."

 

[Gloves]

but seriously guys, you have to admit, howard was a warrior.

he was a fucking beast.

 

[Lentern]

but seriously guys, you have to admit, howard was a warrior.

he was a fucking beast.

I sense this one is goading me

 

[moll.]

Dear oh dear oh dear. Blessed be those who don't full for political narratives, there's is enlightenment forever. Iron puts the icing on the cake with "conviction politician. " Same people who thought Latham was going to win by a landslide when he first took the leadership. I anticipate bringing up of gun laws, waterfront, GST, IR and Iraq as evidence of all that "conviction."

Lentern, your superiority complex upon the topic of politics is getting tiresome.

 

[pman]

What has crud done for u, give u money you lost 200 times over on the share market, and if u had mining shares, make it impossible to get that money back. That mining company will neva be over $100 per share again, so much money lost, permanently all becouse of the Kyoto protocol, GS is right about that, did u know that the producer, not the user pays the carbon credits, we are the producer, we export fossil fuels

 

[Lentern]

Lentern, your superiority complex upon the topic of politics is getting tiresome.

I got tired of all these political myths and narratives long before anyone got tired of my "superiority complex"

 

[moll.]

What has crud done for u, give u money you lost 200 times over on the share market, and if u had mining shares, make it impossible to get that money back. That mining company will neva be over $100 per share again, so much money lost, permanently all becouse of the Kyoto protocol, GS is right about that, did u know that the producer, not the user pays the carbon credits, we are the producer, we export fossil fuels

The collapse in Rio Tinto shares has nothing to do with the signing of the Kyoto protocol.

 

[pman]

it was rio then, the collapse was not soley to do with the signing of Kyoto but, it does reduce compony profit margins thereby reducing the share price

 

[katie tully]

It's not that rich people vote Liberal. It's that poor people and hippies vote Labor, and poor people and hippies out number rich people.

 

[squiresshane990]

What has crud done for u, give u money you lost 200 times over on the share market, and if u had mining shares, make it impossible to get that money back. That mining company will neva be over $100 per share again, so much money lost, permanently all becouse of the Kyoto protocol, GS is right about that, did u know that the producer, not the user pays the carbon credits, we are the producer, we export fossil fuels

haha they will be back what shit is this

mining is just sitting back minimising costs and waiting for this shit to blow over. lol the ore isnt going anywhere in a hurry

 

[moll.]

haha they will be back what shit is this

mining is just sitting back minimising costs and waiting for this shit to blow over. lol the ore isnt going anywhere in a hurry

Except to China, both physically and in terms of ownership.

 

[squiresshane990]

Except to China, both physically and in terms of ownership.

i couldnt care less who owns it or uses it, as long as they pay me upwards of $150k to engineer some shit to get it out of the ground

 

[moll.]

i couldnt care less who owns it or uses it, as long as they pay me upwards of $150k to engineer some shit to get it out of the ground

Why would they pay you $150k when they can give their vertically stunted comrades back in the Motherland $30k for the same job?

 

[squiresshane990]

dunno but im hoping they dont come to the same conclusion anytime soon

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

Why would they pay you $150k when they can give their vertically stunted comrades back in the Motherland $30k for the same job?

Your mum was an economic warrior.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

Your mum was an economic warrior.

In your pants.

 

[Lentern]

It's not that rich people vote Liberal. It's that poor people and hippies vote Labor, and poor people and hippies out number rich people.

I assure you hippies do not get along with trade unionists, many preference the ALP ahead of the coalition but few "hippies" would put the ALP as their first preference, and some will still go for an urban progressive wet liberal like Turnbull, Petro and Hockey, silver spoon tories.

 

[Lentern]

Trade unionists are destroying australia

I'm torn, generally far from the Robin Hood benevolence they claim to possess they seem more about furthering their own cause to know end. They aren't about fairness they are about getting all they can out of it. On the other hand they just won me a pay rise, not great for the greater economy but the freemarket man in me says I shouldn't worry about that and enjoy the money that i've earned.

 

[moll.]

I assure you hippies do not get along with trade unionists, many preference the ALP ahead of the coalition but few "hippies" would put the ALP as their first preference, and some will still go for an urban progressive wet liberal like Turnbull, Petro and Hockey, silver spoon tories.

I would have thought hippies would vote Greens.