Australian flag BANNED!!! (1 Viewer)

[marzbar]

The organisers should've just left the flag alone! Discouraging it is just going to cause more harm than good. There's always going to be a few silly people causing trouble- flag or no flag. It's all about soaking up the sun and music at the BDO, doubt there'd be much room for large scale violence anyway...

 

[terces]

Here's an answer: No they wouldn't because it would't make sense to. It's being displayed in a respectful manner there, to represent the Parliament.

Of course there's always going to be hate. But don't blame one side or the other. You're both to blame. There's this ridiculous "us and them" idea that you're so different because of what? Your ancestry, where you were born? I don't want to get into that but it's just ridiculous.

No I haven't walked down a street in Auburn but once again I'm going to repeat the situation of the Big Day Out: A Controlled area, where you need to abide by certain rules to be allowed in and stay in. It's privately done and thus they can make whatever rules they deem necessary to keep the peace. They believed this would help. Don't stray from the issue which is that of the Big Day Out.

edit: Fuck you, I probably know more about this country than you. Sorry I wasn't lucky enough to be born here, obviously that makes me subject to some sort of ridicule. Oops for not having control over the country of my birth. Idiot.

Oi tulip, you're getting pissed off because you don't like what I have to say? Well then fuck off lady because I am one of millions who have a similiar way of thinking. BDO, yeah it's about the BDO, but the issues igniting the flag discouragement didn't begin at BDO.

Know more about the country then I do, woopde for you, want a fuckn medal? In regards to BDO flag discouragement. I am an Australian and if I was them consumers, I would not stand for such fucking bullshit.

I'm an idiot because you don't like the truth... well so be it.

 

[lengy]

This is going to have a massive negative effect, there will be more people wearing the flag now as a means of rebelling.

 

[HotShot]

The organisers should've just left the flag alone! Discouraging it is just going to cause more harm than good. There's always going to be a few silly people causing trouble- flag or no flag. It's all about soaking up the sun and music at the BDO, doubt there'd be much room for large scale violence anyway...

ITS ONE FUCKEN DAY! - THE WORLD IS NOT GOING TO END LOL.

YOU DONT HAVE TO GO TO THAT GAY BDO THINGY, GO OUT do something else.

the whole point of it is Big Day Out - and BRING YOUR FLAGS. so flags had nothing to do with. Apparetly in the past no one brought their flags, and it was just recently people started to do so. So who gives a shit.

 

[lexie85]

Oi yank, you simply spew your opinions while asking questions, u dont answer questions. So what next, do we take down the flag at parliament house so that it does not ignite racial violence?

There's always going to be hate, but I don't like the thought of people moving aside for others when they shouldn't have to. How would people feel if we walked down Auburn and told them that the text on the shop walls (such as allah jrvfnpjowinv kebab) is influencing us to hurt them? they wouldn't like it... in fact they've flags of labanese orientation all over the joint down there. Us grow up? You need to grow up and see what's going on. You ever walked down a street in Auburn? Well, you would be luckly to walk out of there without beeing insulted in some way... just ask the aussie cityrail stuff what they have to put up with.

Mr_brightside,

Look, I aint racist and I couldn't care if they walk the streets thinking they own them or whatever, but don't bash life guards or dislike what we have here in Australia because we will punch you in the fucking teeth eventually, and send you home (not australia).

actually your more likely to see a turkish flag rather than a "labanese" one in auburn, which goes to show that you probably havent ever really walked down a street there

funny how i've never ever seen or heard the insults, even at the train station ?

you referring to tulipa as a "yank" sounds pretty racist to me, pretty equally racist as the rest of the crap in your post

 

[lengy]

What's entertaining is watching you ignorant noobs try to justify your claims for racism. That and you believe in God.

 

[PoliticalExile]

What's really interesting is for the people at BDO who have hate, is that they wanted to create Thought Crimes.

1. For a gang color to be a legal gang color, there has to be a legal conviction of a gang, a criminal conspiracy in which those charged and convicted all wear the same gang colors. Such a criminal case is not on the records.

2. To outlaw Thought or Images that may be associated with those thoughts is what the USSR would have done, and they killed 62 million people, poets, writers, musicians, artists, dissidents, to do that. It didn't work.

3. If the hate mongers at BDO wanted to ban a symbol associated with mass killing and therefore negative "hate", they would really have to start with Che Guevara and the Hammer and Sickle of Communism which killed more musicians, poets and political dissidents in the last century of than any other system known to humankind.

In conclusion, the hateful people at BDO did not apply intelligence to their assessment of ways to better the concert going experience.

Limiting alcohol would the the most intelligent way to improve the Concert Music experience.

 

[trace7988]

You just live here cause you were born here. I'm just saying that you've never had to make a concious choice (that I know of) about where you would live. So don't judge on birthright kay?...

Nahh Actually I was not born in Australia, I was born in a third world country, life is really tough there, so I could never take my australian citizenship for granted. Ultimately, Australia means alot to me, I didnt have to be born here for that to happen.

Blehhh... this is so stupid 'debating' over the internet! lol. I Actually couldnt care less really, BDO organisers have explained themselves on their website, and although it still seems kinda stupid, I guess its just one of those things that needs to be done eh!

 

[trace7988]

What's entertaining is watching you ignorant noobs try to justify your claims for racism. That and you believe in God.

Hmmm whats even more entertaining is that you use words such as 'noob'.. haha that has got to be the most ineffective insult ever created.

And so what if i believe in God? anything wrong with that?
Youre sitting there callin me a racist, yet youre discriminating against religions? Why knock yourself like that? Gosh youre a silly man..

Definition on the web
Racism: (or racialism) is a form of discrimination based on race, especially the belief that one race is superior to another.

If you actually took the time to read my posts you'll see that infact I never said anything racist, I was 'sticking up' for Australia saying if any people no matter what race they are dont like it or the flag, then they can leave if thts wot they wish for, but never said anything discriminatory about other races. Check your facts first.

 

[Tulipa]

Nahh Actually I was not born in Australia, I was born in a third world country, life is really tough there, so I could never take my australian citizenship for granted. Ultimately, Australia means alot to me, I didnt have to be born here for that to happen.

Blehhh... this is so stupid 'debating' over the internet! lol. I Actually couldnt care less really, BDO organisers have explained themselves on their website, and although it still seems kinda stupid, I guess its just one of those things that needs to be done eh!

So how the hell does that justify your comment that I would never understand what it's like to be an Australian cause I had to work to become a citizen?

It doesn't.

And I can't believe half of the people in this thread.

 

[S1M0]

WHATEVER heritage they have come from, whether its european, asian, middle-eastern, african, whatever. We are ALL australians. Its people like you who only adds to the racial tension.

 

[S1M0]

So how the hell does that justify your comment that I would never understand what it's like to be an Australian cause I had to work to become a citizen?

It doesn't.

And I can't believe half of the people in this thread.

exactly.

If anything, it makes you MORE australian, because you actually appreciate this country, and i would assume that you are grateful to be here. Just like the rest of us.

 

[HotShot]

Over the past four years that i have gone, people have always worn the Australian flag. But it was only last year that HEAPS of people did (probably about 75% of people), and this was because the Cronulla riot had happened a few weeks previously.

I'm surprised that the organisers have said that they had lots of problems last year. When i was there there i saw no problems and it was a pretty friendly environment. There are always drunks at BDO, and i am sure the organisers have had enough of that. But i think people are getting carried away with the drunken behaviour rather than the flag problem (if there even was one last year).

IMO they should just ban the alcohol *awaits to be flamed*

I dont know, I have read that last year it was particulary bad with people wrapping flags and going around forcing people to kiss it and being discriminatory towards of people of different backgrounds.

Ban alcohol? why not? You dont need to drink 24/7.

 

[ur_inner_child]

Closed for mass clean up.

Quite frankly I'm quite appalled by some of you.

 

[Bendent]

I don't think the organizers were being political. If anything they demonstrated their lack of political awareness by making the statement the way they did.

From reports of the BDO last year people were using the Australian flag for antisocial purposes. Roaming around in Australian flags and making people kiss the flag at the risk of being bashed.

I personally think the organizers have the safety of people in their minds, rather than making a lefty political statement. They have legal liability issues. They are responsible if someone gets bashed and, based on last years event, sadly, the Australian flag was used for antisocial purposes.

scary.

 

[Captain Gh3y]

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21120081-2702,00.html

Australians being Australians, it seems like there ended up being more flags than there would have otherwise been just for the sake of defiance. No rioting either.

 

[PoliticalExile]

The psychological sense of innate justice in humankind reacts to attempts by a controlling minority, a feudal dictatorship, to oppress the people.

This is the fundamental philosophical principle to comprehend here. Banning the flag or even representations of the colours of the flag, was an attempt to ban a people's identity, our culture. People reacted to protect a sense of moral justice.

I wanted to go with a shirt that had a Rene Magritte painting on the back saying:

"Ceci n'est pas une Flag" > with an arrow in the painting pointing to a painted representation.

Just to mess with the communist minority feudal dictators that have come over to set up shop in Australia. It's really a discussion of State or Indvidual rights. Does only the State have the right to relegate patriotism and by extension, Love? Or can the individual Libertarian people choose to express Love?

Who is to value and regulate the expression of patriotic Love?

 

[breaking]

Oh. this thread is open again?

Hmm. Not sure what to say :/

ehh. I didn't end up bothering to take my groovy flag cape to BDO anywayz. Couldn't be arsed. Happy ending.

yeah i reopened it.

 

[Comrade nathan]

I accidently took a New Zealand Flag to the Big Day Out. It looked the same as an Australian flag to me.

 

[wheredanton]

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21120081-2702,00.html

Australians being Australians, it seems like there ended up being more flags than there would have otherwise been just for the sake of defiance. No rioting either.

If I went to the big day out I'd take an Australian flag as well. More so for protection than patriotism.