Australia's justice system (1 Viewer)

[nerdasdasd]

Is Australia's justice system too light on criminals?

A fine example is the murder and rape of Jill Meagher, whom only received 35 years before he apply for parole again. (3rd link).

The second example is the second link, where 2 teenagers consistently stole items and committed crimes for nearly a year. Furthermore the consequences of their crime was only a slap on the wrist with a 2000 dollar fine and community service. (This was not their first time)

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3991918.html

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...onth-crime-spree/story-e6freoof-1226586344837

http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/latest/article/-/17727947/soft-sentencing-debate/

 

[funkshen]

A life sentence with a non-parole period of 35 years is not a soft sentence.

Juvenile justice is a sensitive issue. However, a $2000 fine, a six-month suspended sentence and 18 months probation with 100 hours of community service are, again, not soft sentences.

False dilemma. Someone shut this racist thread down.

 

[Emily Howard]

Bayley got 15 for rape, life for murder cos of da controversy n media

the 15/25 years fo rape is indeed soft cos if he aint a case fo maximum sentence fo rape idk wot is

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-19/adrian-bayley-sentenced-for-rape-and-murder-of-jill-meagher/4764318

 

[Emily Howard]

socialists n new age fuckwits who dink dey can rehabilitate ppl r da problem

straya so fuckin socialist

 

[townie]

No

 

[townie]

Bayley got 15 for rape, life for murder cos of da controversy n media

the 15/25 years fo rape is indeed soft cos if he aint a case fo maximum sentence fo rape idk wot is

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-19/adrian-bayley-sentenced-for-rape-and-murder-of-jill-meagher/4764318

There needs to be an incentive to pleading guilty. In this case it is the possibility of parole. If there was no incentive to plead guilty, why bother? He could have dragged the trial out, making the living victims suffer even more than they have already

 

[Emily Howard]

There needs to be an incentive to pleading guilty. In this case it is the possibility of parole. If there was no incentive to plead guilty, why bother? He could have dragged the trial out, making the living victims suffer even more than they have already

dats not serving justice dats bein concerned bout court time

yes its sad fo the victims but if u dnt testify bad ppl dnt get dere just desserts

 

[townie]

dats not serving justice dats bein concerned bout court time

yes its sad fo the victims but if u dnt testify bad ppl dnt get dere just desserts

I think justice means righting wrongs whilst minimizing damage to all parties. Given that parole isn't even guaranteed in this case (it's just an option) I think it's the best outcome really.

Justice =/= revenge

 

[TheEntrepreneur]

Bring back capital punishment!

 

[Emily Howard]

I think justice means righting wrongs whilst minimizing damage to all parties. Given that parole isn't even guaranteed in this case (it's just an option) I think it's the best outcome really.

Justice =/= revenge

no, hes an example of sum1 dat shld neva get out cos of da risk he poses 2 da community shldnt get the option of parole

shld b fo lyf

20 other rapes/assaults

danger 2 society

n as u seen parole board are shit (hunter hill bus stop, bayley b4 jill rape)

 

[Lolsmith]

dats not serving justice dats bein concerned bout court time

yes its sad fo the victims but if u dnt testify bad ppl dnt get dere just desserts

Completely disregarding the victims of a crime isn't justice either. Ensuring ethical convictions are made (for instance, pleading guilty as opposed to just changing the legal system to make it easier to convict) in a speedy manner is important for a lot of reasons.

Judging by your post, you just want to punish wrongdoers which isn't a great foundation for a legal system.

I do agree that he shouldn't have been paroled but that's (afaik) not due to a "soft" system, but the perpetrator actually deceiving it.

 

[townie]

no, hes an example of sum1 dat shld neva get out cos of da risk he poses 2 da community shldnt get the option of parole

shld b fo lyf

20 other rapes/assaults

danger 2 society

n as u seen parole board are shit (hunter hill bus stop, bayley b4 jill rape)

Firstly. Stop with the bs way you are posting because its fucking annoying.

Secondly. The parole board isn't perfect, I agree, but it's more sensible then to reform the parole board and parole system rather than letting knee jerk reactions to such a minuscule number of people determine how we sentence people.

 

[Emily Howard]

http://www.news.com.au/national-new...for-jail-release/story-fncynjr2-1226671333856

m8 wld hav executed or sent back to dere lebos land

 

[Emily Howard]

m8 dis is straya born n educated in da west dis is da speak of da west

 

[Graney]

There's a few studies in the Australian context (don't make me research this) which have consistently shown:

- general public who aren't involved usually perceive sentencing as too soft.
- juries almost always agree with sentencing, more often desire more lenient sentencing then harsher sentencing.
- when you sit the general public down and explain the entire circumstances surrounding a crime, they on average recommend slightly more lenient sentencing than the judge applied.

 

[funkshen]

you don't need a study to tell you 99% of australians haven't read the crimes act, criminal procedure act, crimes (sentencing procedure) act, or young offenders act, and have no actual basis for making any judgements about criminal penalties.

 

[Rafy]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...d-behaviour-bond/story-fni0cx12-1226672815342

 

[townie]

"The Daily Telegraph has launched a campaign for mandatory minimum jail sentences for all child-sex offenders - to bring the sentencing in to line with public expectations."

*sigh*

Also I love how that article manages to report almost nothing in the way of facts relating to the case but has sensationalized it to the n-th