russianROULETTE said:
just out of curiousity (i've searched the net and nothing seemed current), can anyone who watched the coverage tell me which swing states obama won?
also, yay
Um, well some states that used to be swing states weren't this election.
The "swing" states Obama won are:
North Carolina - by like 0.5% (hasn't voted Democratic in decades)
Indiana - by like 0.5% (hasn't voted Democratic in decades)
Florida - by 2% (voted for Bush twice)
Ohio - by 4% (voted for Bush twice)
Virginia - by 4% (hasn't voted Democratic in decades)
Colorada - by 8% (hasn't voted Democratic in 12 years)
Pennsylvania - by 11% (usually votes Democratic)
Nevada - by 14% (voted for Bush twice)
New Mexico - by 15% (voted for Bush last time)
bshoc said:
We'll all be feeling alot worse if Obama truly turns out to be a foreign policy weakling (of which there is a worrying chance he will be), Bush never had a problem asserting American dominance in the most overt ways when needed, and in an era of a rising China and increasing radicalization of the islamic world, this is exactly what IS needed. Only time in the oval office will tell whether Obama will accept the reality and role of that chair, or rest upon his own unrealistic beliefs, to the detriment of the Western world.
Obama is no more a foreign policy weakling than McCain is. He's certainly not as personally experienced in foreign policy as McCain (but then, that's what the cabinet is for), but that's got little to do with his actual determination and ruthlessness when it comes to foreign policy.