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best way to make your money grow (1 Viewer)

so?

  • buy a franchise (eg gloria jeans)

    Votes: 6 7.3%
  • invest in a house and rent it out

    Votes: 27 32.9%
  • invest in a unit next to a uni and rent it out

    Votes: 9 11.0%
  • stock market

    Votes: 29 35.4%
  • buy land

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • shared portfolio

    Votes: 7 8.5%

  • Total voters
    82

Not-That-Bright

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Two Words: Porn Industry..

If you can get into the porn industry, you're bound to make a few bucks... fastest growing industry in the world.

Asquithian i know electricians doing the electrical work basically laying huge cables for that tunnel going under the city, they earn huge bucks...

Oh there u go guys! to earn a shitload while young, work in a mine/offshore gas/oil platform.
 

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mr_brightside said:
yes property is good for making cash grow, but were do u get 500k in the first place to invest in somewhere where people will want to rent?
Some shit lenders will lend 100%, though they have shit rates. Most good banks will lend up to 95% for full doc applications in accepted postcodes.
 

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Asquithian said:
I was thinking the eletrical contractor like the air conditioner installer. There is good money for young trades people out there - as long as you are willing to work.
Plus practically all of them get paid in cash.
 

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my dad (who had 50 years in the building industry) told me off when i was a layabout 16 year old and told me to get an apprenticeship in commercial airconditioning. big buildings (think cbd) + summer + broken aircon = teh mega bux, or so he told me, anyway (though maybe he just wanted me out of the house :D).
 

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Asquithian said:
Anything on the harbour is still undervalued. Under a million dollars Australia and you can have a nice 2/3 bedroom apartment with views of the harbour (around 700 to 800k)..

Plus the only tax haven in Australia is the 'home'. You pay tax on everything else.
Yeah, housing prices in the CBD do not appreciate very well. So it won't be a place to expect capital growth.
If you want to invest your cash, setting up a weekly annuity is good, forces you to save.
In regards to the stock market, havent had much experience, but know of a family man who supports his family by trading options overseas.
 

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hoh if i were really motivated by money id get into waste management. theres a job that wouldnt be fun.

those plants are really advanced though. i saw a documentary on one in sydney where it could provide a portion (all?) of its own power and water off the waste. :cool:
 

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Yea my dad owns a plumbing business along with a few other trades n all the plumbers and that are on great cash, even as apprentices... all get to take home cars n shit, like it's fairly hard work but i'd rate it against fast food any day.

Tho i'd say to STAY employed you can't be a TOTAL idiot.
 

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Not-That-Bright said:
Yea my dad owns a plumbing business along with a few other trades n all the plumbers and that are on great cash, even as apprentices... all get to take home cars n shit, like it's fairly hard work but i'd rate it against fast food any day.

Tho i'd say to STAY employed you can't be a TOTAL idiot.
yeh plumbers get heaps. i would look into that. :))
 

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Have you thought of putting your money into a Term Deposit? It probably wont make your money GROW, but if you leave it with the National for 11 months, you can get 5.35% paid at maturity which isnt too bad.

If youve got $250,000 in a cheque or savings account, and you dont want to tie your money up for 11 months - you could either go for a shorter time on your T.D or the Cash Management Accelerator Account. Im not sure exactly what the rate is at the moment, I think its something like 3 or 4 % but you have full access to your money. The reason that such a high interest rate is offered on a personal account is because your operate your account by telephone or internet banking, you cant draw money out over the counter or through the flexiteller.

That aside, I think I saw in another thread that you were thinking about Gloria Jean's as a Franchise? According to BRW, it has the second most expensive entry cost in the list of top ten fastest growing franchises (At $400,000 behind Oporto's which is $450,00). Boost Juice was the fastest growing Franchise, with 226.2% turnover growth in 102 outlets with an entry cost of $250,000. If youre interested in purchasing a Franchise, it may be worth you picking up Jan 20-Feb 16th's BRW as it has a big special on Boom Franchises and Direct Selling.

In my opinion, I think you'd be better of putting some money into a Term Deposit to start off with; because -


  • You only have your money tied up for 11 months, with a fair profit at the end of it. Face it, youre not going to actually LOSE any money at all when you get locked into your interest rate
  • At the end of 11 months (or 6 if you choose), you can reassess if you want to purchase property, a business or whatever - or you could just rollover your term deposit and let your funds accumluate more at maturity
  • If you have to borrow money to buy a franchise or to purchase property, we have a better environment at the moment for having money than borrowing it. Lending rates are going to go up.
  • Its very hard to get a business banking loan, for anybody. There is incredibly fierce competition for business loans, and people are prepared to pay any interest rate in return for backing. Unsecured lending is now completley obsolete.
  • Borrowing for inner city apartments and properties are no longer the bank's preferred service as housing prices have come down and there is an excess of supply of city housing. It's pretty hard to get a loan for one of these, especially if it were to be your first loan..

Cheery.
 

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Asquithian said:
Yeah. Try domain.

Neutral bay. Apartment. 2/3 bedrooms 700k to 900k...super value...water/bridge/city views + 10 to 20 mins from city.


http://www.domain.com.au/Public/PropertyDetails.aspx?adid=2004778298

http://www.domain.com.au/Public/PropertyDetails.aspx?adid=2004633768

http://www.domain.com.au/Public/PropertyDetails.aspx?adid=2004508811

the point is - what place on earth has quality apartments and townhouses with sydney views for under a million? Great value. NOt many places on earth has that kind of value. Poms think its bloody cheap considering its 1 pound = 3 bucks.
dont dream, you and i know theses are impossible dreams for now :p
 

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Not-That-Bright said:
Two Words: Porn Industry..

If you can get into the porn industry, you're bound to make a few bucks... fastest growing industry in the world.

Asquithian i know electricians doing the electrical work basically laying huge cables for that tunnel going under the city, they earn huge bucks...

Oh there u go guys! to earn a shitload while young, work in a mine/offshore gas/oil platform.
$300-uncapped/per hour :uhhuh:
 

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i prefer small companies. Put in $100 and sometimes it grows five-fold but sometimes you lose it. High risk, high gain as the saying goes
 

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If you enjoy working under an aussie built roof when it is 30 degrees outside and closer to 60degrees under it then become an air conditioning installer.

Yes you can buy cheapish apartments and houses still under 1mill with harbour views, I just hope you enjoy renovating or demolishing as soon as you move in. Real Estate agents love putting starting from prices online to entice more people to turn up at auction, a few are starting to get sued for putting an expected price of 1mil on houses that most normal people would put at least 1.4mil on. Also don't forget that you get to pay land tax on your properties, so I hope you never plan on moving out of the place and renting it out. Then you have vendors tax on sale. With property you NEVER own it, stop paying your land tax or rates and see how long the house remains yours.

Forget the term deposit, some of them will hit you hard if you pull out early. Go for an online savings account instead as they have decent %pa and none of the drawbacks of a term deposit. Do a search for citibank or ingdirect or hsbc and you should be able to get more info.

Franchises are a funny beast, I know of a Subway that opened up in a smallish town a few months back and it's struggling. You can be part of a great franchise group but it will not guarantee success.

"Driving a work ute" might look cool but it's really not if you're still paying it off. A lot of tradies make a decent living, some of them struggle, same with almost any opportunity. Don't go looking at only a few examples and go "wow my mate Tom says he makes 100bucks an hour fixing leaking taps" because you don't know the full story, that $100 might be an averaged price per job and includes initital equipment costs, maintenance costs, insurance, and parts. A lot of small business people don't have very good financial skills. Looking financially well off and actually being it are two different things.

Anyone who does something cash in hand might be getting a little more then and there but often they are not covered as well as those who do things by the book and as a result will end up with more than they bargained for should anything go wrong anywhere.

You could try the buy-renovate-sell or develop strategy if you feel like a handyman and can save money. It's not unheard of to get 50%+ return on your money for these kinds of projects. but again you need to know what you are doing.
 

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im with the thousand other people here who say term deposit. no risks involved and the more money you put in you will get a shitload more out.
 

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