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I like to spend most cost-effectively ;), so basically as little as possible whilst avoiding shit-house waste of money products.
 

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Ok, well grab a microfiber chamois (Meguiars Microwipe) for ~$19: cheaper than leather ones and better (don't even think about the synthetic ones). You might also wanna try Mothers products which you can use on clearcoats AND multi-layered paint, which allows you to use your products on new cars with clearcoats if you need to (so you get more bang for your buck, so to speak). You can either use a one-step wax product like Mothers Cleaner Wax which cleans and seals/protects and is generally cheaper (~$18) and takes less time, but you won't get the same results as their "Ultimate Wax System" (3 different products: Pre-Wax Cleaner, Sealer/Glaze, and Pure Wax) which costs about $70 for all three products.

If you wanna do a perfect job on the paint, grab Meguiars Quik Clay Detailing Kit for about $30 as well as Mothers Ultimate Wax System and go for it! I just did this on my Charade which brought it up awesomely - cost a bit, but it was worth it in my eyes (see attached pic). Clay bars are amazing things - so little effort but they work so well.

The Clay bar removes imbedded contaminants like industrial fallout, pollen, emissions from other cars, bird poop, road tar, etc and leaves the surface as smooth as glass. The Pre-Wax Cleaner removes old wax, oxidisation and other stuff and preps the surface basically; the Sealer/Glaze seals the paint, masks light scratches and adds depth to the car's shine; and the Pure Carnauba Wax protects the paint from day-to-day contaminants that can wreck your finish over time.

But either way, like I said, if you wanna do it right it ain't cheap! You can get all this from Supercheap, by the way (not trying to promote them or anything, I'd rather avoid that if I could... ;)).

EDIT: or you can take the cheaper route which still works: grab some Armorall Car Wash (not Wash n Wax), some T-CUT ColorFast in the colour for your car, and some Formula1 (brand) Carnauba paste wax in the yellow tin with the foam applicator. That will set you back around $40 all up, and still does a good job. It's what I used to use before I lost my grasp on the concept of money... ;) I still recommend you grab the microfiber chamois, though - they're worth every cent, cos a good chamois can really add to the cleaning experience (crap ones streak and don't soak up water, stink and dry stiff, grow mould.. oh god make it stop). Also grab some 100% cotton rags to apply the T-CUT and the wax.
 
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Well I went the cheaper route for now (what with still having grasp of the concept of money and all ;)). Gave it a good clean this afternoon and its looking alright I'll cut and polish tomorrow and wax on saturday - hey I'm lazy and like to sleep in.

Though I do have a quick question; orange paint, but no orange T-cut closest would be yellow. Or should i use a non-colour specific one like Kitten?
 

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lol, yeh I like my sleep in too. :)

Yeh I think yellow would come closest - I have a bottle of red with me right here and I don't think it'd be best for orange. Yeh you could try Kitten if you a absolutely positive that the car isn't clearcoat - they make a red bottle with a black label called "cut and polish" which would be right on the money for you, as it were. ;)

To apply the polish, if you have an old bath towel use that - just cut it up into squares, cheap and useful. Or you could just buy the 100% cotton rags; OR go through your closet and check the tags of t-shirts etc you don't wear anymore to find 100% cotton clothes and chop them up, too. You can never have enough rags when you're detailing a car! :D

So you went on your spend up? *mother voice* Did you get the microfiber chamois?! :p
 

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I'm 150% positive that its multi-layer (stupid tired typo had this as clearcoat), so I mkight try the kitten stuff I'm abit uneasy about using yellow on orange....

Yes mummy I bought the microfibre chamois;).

Oh I have abit of a question: the car was in an accident about two years ago and the bonnet was replaced (obviously enough it needed to be sprayed to match the car). The paint on the bonnet has gone kinda funny, big cloudy marks over much of the surface, no apparent pattern to them. They appear to have developed over about the last six months - no other paintwork is effected. Oh and they arnt visible when the bonnet is wet, any ideas?
 
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Now me is tired AND confused - you said it was multi-layer now it's a clear coat?? *Professor Frink voice* "Oh god!"

To find out, grab a cutting compound and a white cloth and rub a bit on an inconspicuous area of the paint. If the paint rubs onto the cloth, you've got a multi-layered paint. If nothing rubs off, you've got a clearcoat and should probably store the cutting compound in the cupboard for the rest of its life (unless you buy a car with multi-layered paint).

Well you bought the chamois which is good. Just don't put it in the dryer. :p

And your Q: it could be oxidation; the paint may not have been waxed, leaving it prone to dulling. Although this would happen progressively over the 2 years. Or maybe the bonnet has a clearcoat, and something has scratched it and then the clearcoat has slowly become cancerous, spreading across the bonnet as water gets underneath it...? If the polish doesn't fix it then it'll require a respray which would annoy me if it were on my car.
 

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Don't worry the clearcoat bit was a tired-ness typo.

I'll definantly be shitted of if it needs a respray (and will gladly advise anyone living in or near the Hawkesbury not to use Prestige Smash Repairs - hell I advise against it anyway because of the shifting timeframe eg it went from being there for three days to we'll have it done in two weeks).

Any idea of whether or not I could score of the NRMA to fix it - it was afterall an insurance job.

If not its no drama I'll just do it with my brother and it'll only be parts cost.
 

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i've had my car for over a month, bought it second hand. it wasnt washed at all when i bought it, and i havent washed it since. so sad, i know :eek:

but i spent a good couple of hours vaccuming it during the day, and another hour or so giving it a wash and a rubdown. and i must say i "felt the love". i feel like taking good care of it and since i am on holidays, its a killer way to pass time.

so i need some advice on what to do.

lets begin with my car care "range". a lot of them are dodgy hand-me-downs...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/redruM25/carCare001.jpg

all i have done so far is give it a wash with the armor all wash and wax. there were somekind of spots on the front near the badge, which i got rid off by the interior cleaner. strange, but it worked well. i hope it isnt bad for the paint. i wiped it off with a damp cloth in the end.

i was going to use the turtle wax over the paint, and then the invisible glass thing on the glass/mirrors.



i know this is below par for most out there, but let me know what i can do. cost efficiency is important. any recommendations are most welcome (just dont be too harsh on me)
 
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use the turps for a nice glossy shine :)
lolol.

nah really. i would also like to know a few good tips. nothing too fancy..just teh general wash and wax etc. etc.

edit: i have metallic paint if it helps..
 

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yeah i should add that i don't know what type of paint i have.

also, i have those front seat rain protectors on the windows (not sure what they are called). is it a good idea to take them out to get into the corners to get rid of dirt etc.

edit: i mean this on the front window:
 
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redruM, I have no idea why you have turps in your car wash stash! :p

The Wash n Wax products are two-in-one products which clean your car and at the same time add a thin coating of wax (a product you use to protect your paint from the elements). However generally these stuff are compromises and are really intended to be quick and convenient rather than actually work...

The Turtle wax is a dedicated wax. Now you need a polish. If you want your car to look awesome, you need to*:

a) Rinse then wash to remove dirt then rinse again, then after that chamois to remove residual water and get ready for polishing;
b) Polish/Clean to remove old wax, oxidation and contaminants, prepare the surface for the protective coating of wax;
c) Apply a layer of wax to protect the paint from the elements (such as bird poo, pollen, the weather, acid rain, industrial fallout, pollution, etc).

You can't use the Wash n Wax products to do step A because the small wax film you're applying will only be removed by step B. So you need a basic car Wash (not a Wash n Wax) which will set you back about $5 for another Armorall one - be careful because Armorall's Wash n Wax and their Car Wash look heaps similar on the shelf. Don't use dishwashing detergent!! It'll strip all your wax off and you'll have no protection from the elements at all. For B, try some TCUT Colorfast in the right colour for your car (about $15). Then you can use the TurtleWax on your car for step C. And you're done! The TCUT should really bring the car up if it hasn't got any permanent damage - it's also safe for clearcoats (well last time I checked it was, but read the bottle anyway). Might take a little while but it'll be worth it.

Generally the stuff you have is cheap and nasty but it does a good job considering it's price - you can do worse, trust me! ;) You can get all the above crap from your local Supercheap Auto store (I work there that's why) - while you're there, seriously consider getting a Meguiar's Microwipe Microfiber Chamois for about $18. It's worth every cent; a good chamois is a valuable investment to your stash - and this one doesn't need a gay container, or dry into some weirdly-shaped clump of cardboard, or grow little farms of mould. Just don't stick it in the dryer or let it anywhere near fabric softener as these are terminal to microfiber!

In regards to the weathershield (that's what us whitecoats call them :p) if you can get it off easily and clean it then it's worth it because dirt tends to concentrate in the bits you can't get to - BUT I had one on my car until I put a nasty big crack in it trying to get it off (hey! it was ugly anyways).

ToO LaZy ^*: you have a clearcoat finish so don't go using a heavy cutting compound any time soon. Normally people 'clean' their paints if they have a clearcoat and they 'polish' if they have conventional multi-layered paint. Modern paint finishes take much longer to clean and thus are more expensive.

Some tips:
- where possible, wash your car in the shade. The sun can dry products to quickly, such as car wash, and cause waterspotting.
- always work from the top down, because if you wash the bottom first then it's only gonna get dirty from the dirt flowing down to the ground from above it
- don't wear clothes that could scratch your car when your washing it, and similarly don't be afraid to get wet. You're washing a car - it happens!
- use two buckets when washing; one for the soapy water and one for rinsing embedded dirt particles out of your sponge. If you only use one then you're only wiping the dirt across the surface and causing tiny scratches in your car's finish (a bucket full of dirty water at the end might be satisfying but in the end you're only washing your car with a bucket of dirty water).
- avoid as much as you can getting wax on your rubber finishes as it will stain them white and it's a real bitch to clean it back to original colour
- it is imperative to wax your car in the shade, otherwise the product can dry too quickly and actually damage your finish
- use terry towels to apply and remove wax (a separate for each) - terry towels are just basically like bathroom towels, so chop one up if you've got an old one
- trim your car before you polish and wax (that is, your tyres and wheels, bumpers, and other little things) However clean your glass last when you've finished waxing, which means you don't need to bother washing them with the sponge while you're washing the car (unless you've recently been on a trip to Ulura).

Here are some kewl links:
- Good overview of car detailing and terms and crap:
http://www.web-cars.com/detail/
- Goes into a little too much detail but good for reading about specific things:
http://www.corral.net/tech/maintenance/detail.html
- lol, basically has the same tips as me but actually nicely summed up:
http://autorepair.website2go.com/p9.html

*remember this is a heaps basic guide - if you're using basic products then you won't need advanced tips. They come with advanced products like random orbital buffers, clay bars, quick detailing mists, etc... which also equal large clumps of $$$. :eek:

Remember to wash your car on the grass where you can to help out with the environment. :)
 

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thanks a lot slipstream!

i'll look into those things and links when i am a little less hungover. :)
 

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Be careful also when washing your windows, if you have tinted windows, where the tint is just stuck on the outside (not embedded in the window) don't use actual window cleaner because it might be acidic and eat the tint, gradually of course.
 
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cheers slip!..youre awesome!

one more thing...what products do you recommend for my general clean and wax? (low-medium price range)
 

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its a family share car, its just there to drive for anyone. It gets no love or attention...because its an excel. Passenger door doesn't open from the outside due to lack of handle....driver side door doesn't open from the inside because...its a stupid pice of crap.
 

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ToO LaZy ^* said:
cheers slip!..youre awesome!

one more thing...what products do you recommend for my general clean and wax? (low-medium price range)
Hey - sorry for my late reply. I'm lazy okay.

Avoid TCUT as it is actually a cutting compound but for some reason the bottle says it is safe for metallics, and most metallics are clear coat so I put one-and-one together... so it won't be safe fpr your car. Try a basic wash and then grab a good quality Cleaner Wax like Mequiar's or Mothers. Check that it's clear coat safe though. :)
 

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