Comp Science in double degree? (1 Viewer)

[TheKey]

would it be possible to do Electrical engineering(electronics)/ Computer science(AI) by applying for 425021 B Engineering / B Science @ UNSW?

the reasopn i ask is that majors (such as AI) from 'comp science' are non existant in 'Science', also the cutoff for comp science on its own is 85 while for this double degree im considering is 80.1 so what course should i apply for so that i can do Electrical engineering(electronics)/ Computer science(AI)?

btw i got 89.3 UAI

thx for any help

 

[sunny]

I do not know the UAC code, but you can do BE (elec eng)/ BSc (Comp Sci).

Where did you hear about doing a major in AI? I really don't think there is such thing as doing elec eng (electronics)/ comp sci (AI).

AI is a subject that is available to 3rd year students as an elective only.

Despite what the UAC guide says, CSE has the cut off for the combined degree at 90 (here), but you might be able to get away with it with your UAI.

You might also want to look at this for more indepth details of the program:
http://www.eet.unsw.edu.au/programs/courses/3725.html

 

[TheKey]

thanks alot sunny i also had a look on that website and somehow never got across that particular page.

i am not really dead set on AI just thought it might be interesting, i saw it listed in the UAC guide 2004 under 'Major Studies' so i assumed u could major in it...looks like that UAC book cant be trusted.

However its this 90 UAI cutoff that really scares me as this course in the UAC book and it is 425021, the same as on the site, says the cutoff for 2002 is 80, and 2003 is 80.10.

But lets trust the site, so if it is 90, is there anyone i could talk to on jan5 about getting me in somehow, like any 'nice' influential lecturers or head teachers..

 

[sunny]

They won't be able to do much on jan 5th since its not actually enrolment. But you should be able to find someone that can clear up the UAI discrepency - there will be lecturers etc there that day, along with current students (I'll be there!). A 'nice' staff member that I know won't be there on info day, but probably will be there for enrolment. He 'put' me into higher subjects which I had just missed the cut offs for.

I actually accidentally enrolled in BE/BSc in the main round when I actually wanted straight computer science (got it in the late round) - but I never had the problem with the UAI because I was above the cut off for both.

In case you don't get into the combined degree, there is always the option of transferring into it after you've enrolled in one of the degrees.

 

[asdf]

Sunny, if u get in to that course (Electrical engineering(electronics)/ Computer science), do you still need to maintain a credit average so that you dont revert to single degree?

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[sunny]

Yes. In general a credit average is needed to stay in the combined degree.

 

[asdf]

Credit Average in both degrees or just one of them?

 

[sunny]

When you do the combined degree, you are actually doing the subjects required for the awarding of both degrees at the same time. This is particularly good with computer science because alot of the computer science degree are electives - they simply fill the electives up for you with subjects that would make you qualify for another degree (elec eng). If you look at the program guide here and compare them with the straight EE and Comp Sci degrees you will know what I mean.

So there isn't actually any 'both' - you will still be doing 4 subjects at any semester, and as long as your average for those subjects is a credit or above, you've maintained credit average for that semester. Do this every semester and you stay in your combined degree.

edit: it may be more than 4 subjects a semster, but still 24 units of credit

 

[asdf]

ah cool thanks! Do they automatically revert u to one degree if four 1 semester u didn't get credit average? Or they can give u chances etc...?

Thanks again

 

[TheKey]

right now im actually tempted about droping engineering and only concentrating on comp science, however just for backup could i still combine it with engineering after 1st year or maybe even later?

i know u can go from eng-> eng/comp science, but can u also go other way round? If its possible i think it should be easier as i heard many people drop out of engineering so there should be plenty of spaces. Also when im talking about transfering i mean in a way that i dont actually lose a year, rather so i can still do my original course ' Electrical engineering(electronics)/ Computer science ' within 5 years.

 

[sunny]

Originally posted by asdf
ah cool thanks! Do they automatically revert u to one degree if four 1 semester u didn't get credit average? Or they can give u chances etc...?

Thanks again

That I don't really know - I don't know anyone that hasn't managed a credit average who is in a combined degree! I would image though if you are fairly close you would be cautioned and 'advised' to drop out. You should be able to find this sort of detail at info day.

Orignally posted by TheKeyi know u can go from eng-> eng/comp science, but can u also go other way round? If its possible i think it should be easier as i heard many people drop out of engineering so there should be plenty of spaces. Also when im talking about transfering i mean in a way that i dont actually lose a year, rather so i can still do my original course ' Electrical engineering(electronics)/ Computer science ' within 5 years.

Yes combining either ways should be possible. The elec eng/comp sci combined degree is looked after by the EE school, and their requirement is that combining be done after first year - but this is combining when you are doing an EE course, not a CSE one. If you combine after enrolment, you will be given credit for work relevant to the combined degree - but theres no guarantee you will finish within 5 years. eg, if you enrolled in comp sci and spent first year doing comp sci subjects and electives not relevant to the combined degree - you would already be behind because you will not have done the EE subjects in first year.

 

[Lazarus]

The 'major studies' listed in the UAC guide aren't actually majors, as such - they're just areas you can use your electives to focus on.

It's not easy to transfer after having done a year of your degree and to complete all of it within 5 years. Not easy at all. In fact, it would be easier to begin with the combined degree and then drop back to a single degree if you didn't like one of them.

 

[TheKey]

Thanks alot for all the info, this will definatly give me something to think about before i once more do a final preference line up.