As you said pH system has not been invented, sure maybe its true or not, im not sure corse no textbooks actually talked much about history since its actually a science, however at that time they also did not know about ionisation only dissociation so technically speaking D) is also wrong. i think both terms is implying an idea using present day terms.XcarvengerX said:OK. I also chose C but I chose C only because there is a H+ there.
According to some people above, pH system has not been invented at that time (I think the pH concept was first introduced in early 1900), so that is the problem with C. How can you show a relationship with something that has not been implemented yet? And D, as you said, is not incorrect either, so D is the most correct answer.
I think at that time the terms "dissociation" and "ionisation" are used interchangeably due to lack of knowledge about ions, although Faraday has already done a lot of works on quantitative ions analysis using electrolysis prior to Arrhenius time.yellow103 said:As you said pH system has not been invented, sure maybe its true or not, im not sure corse no textbooks actually talked much about history since its actually a science, however at that time they also did not know about ionisation only dissociation so technically speaking D) is also wrong. i think both terms is implying an idea using present day terms.
BUT problem with C) is becuase we were not taught if weak and strong acid were know at the time so techniqually we cant say whether he show the relationship between weak and strong with his theory. so sure D) could be correct but since we are not taught this how do we know if its right or wrong. but we were however taught the answer in C) so....i dunno, maybe we are digging too deep
Then you haven't been looking at many books have you?yellow103 said:Look i thought about question 11 alot and i think is C
because 1. HE definitly proposed that ACIDS dissociates to produce H+ ions which is what gives the acidic nature THUS making C) a correct statement. Its definitly not Wrong as its in all textbooks
D however, said it explained why acids are strong and weak.
FIRST - NO textbooks actually made this point
SECOND - No textbooks gave any clue that people at the time Puzzled over or Questioned weak and strong nature of acids. WE dont know if they even know about weak or strong acids or moles. It did not STATE any of this in ANY text book.
SO therefore D could be right but we are not taught this in textbooks HOWEVER
C) is definitly RIGHT as it improves upon Davy's Theory of Replaceable hydrogen
however BOS might ignore all this and D could be correct answer which in this case i will complain to the senior marker of chemistry (his my tutor ^^) about this
I agree with these answers but i only got 12/15 (i put 5a, 6d, 14c)XcarvengerX said:Don't make this thread become a house of lies...
Here are the correct answers for multiple choice section of 2006 HSC Chemistry:
1. C
2. A
3. B
4. C
5. B
6. B
7. A
8. B
9. C
10. C
11. D
12. A
13. D
14. D
15. A
Use this to mark yours if you are desperate and post your result here. If there are any problems, post it here. Note that everything has been explained throughout this thread, so please read it first before asking any questions.
Personal note: I got 13/15 which is way better than trial 11/15.
Sorry, but C is completely wrong - read it properly arrhenius said nothing about that - even chemistry teacher said so - and D is taught in Conquering Chemistry - claerly that is the answeryellow103 said:Look i thought about question 11 alot and i think is C
because 1. HE definitly proposed that ACIDS dissociates to produce H+ ions which is what gives the acidic nature THUS making C) a correct statement. Its definitly not Wrong as its in all textbooks
D however, said it explained why acids are strong and weak.
FIRST - NO textbooks actually made this point
SECOND - No textbooks gave any clue that people at the time Puzzled over or Questioned weak and strong nature of acids. WE dont know if they even know about weak or strong acids or moles. It did not STATE any of this in ANY text book.
SO therefore D could be right but we are not taught this in textbooks HOWEVER
C) is definitly RIGHT as it improves upon Davy's Theory of Replaceable hydrogen
however BOS might ignore all this and D could be correct answer which in this case i will complain to the senior marker of chemistry (his my tutor ^^) about this