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quote freaking_out:
actually, the fact that the question is posted by "OLDMAN", turns me off straight away.
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Criticism noted. An examiner's dilemma : pose a challenge, but be fair. Only a few weeks left, time to boost confidence. Hope this one fits the bill.

w^3 =1. Prove that z_1, z_2,-wz_1-w^2z_2 form the vertices of an equilateral triangle, z_1,z_2 arbitrary complex numbers and w not=1.
 
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w^3-1=0
(w-1)(w^2+w+1)=0
w^2+w+1=0 when w=/=1
w = -w^2-1

Let A, B, C rep complx numbers z_1, z_2,-wz_1-w^2z_2 resp.

-wz_1 - w^2z_2 = -z_1(-w^2-1) - w^2z_2
= z_1 + z_1w^2 - w^2z_2
= z_1 + w^2(z_1-z_2)
= z_1 + cis(-2pi/3)(z_1-z_2)

Let D represent z_1 + (z_1-z_2)

Now on a diagram, D is the vector BA + z_1. /_BAD = 180*.

Now vector AC is vector AD rotated through 120*. So /_BAC = /_BAD - 120* = 60*.

edit: Can you show me a better way of explaining it instead of using D? I've never been good at putting these things into words.
 

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Quote McLake:
nice Q (I leave it for HSC students)
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Thanks McLake. Though it has a distinct recycled feel to it: Q8 b 1997.

ND shows mastery of complex vectors - a topic many students assume they know, but assumption falls apart with a Q8 type problem.
Another proof can be obtained by proving sides are all equal.
 

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yes, many people underestimate how hard Complex Numers can be. Flicking back throught the paast decade of exams, about half the Q7/8 are Complex Numebers ...
 

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Originally posted by ND
I just wonder if there's a better (simpler) way of putting it all into words.
Looks pretty good to me (creating points is fine)
 
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Originally posted by freaking_out
can u show us how u prove it that way?:(
Well C can be represented by both 'z_1 + cis(-2pi/3)(z_1-z_2)' and 'z_2 + cis(2pi/3)(z_2-z_1)'. You have a go at showing AB=BC=AC (remember to use the modulii). :)
 

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Originally posted by ND
Well C can be represented by both 'z_1 + cis(-2pi/3)(z_1-z_2)' and 'z_2 + cis(2pi/3)(z_2-z_1)'. You have a go at showing AB=BC=AC (remember to use the modulii). :)
finally, i've actually went somewhere with OLDMAN's question (even though ND pretty much did everything):D. anyway, for dumb students like me here is the finishing of the above proof:

correct me if i'm wrong but u find the "other" version of C by observation of the diagram. so:

OC=z_1 + cis(-2pi/3)(z_1-z_2).........1
or
OC=z_2 + cis(2pi/3)(z_2-z_1)...........2

AC=OC-z_1
sub in equation 1
AC=|cis(-2pi/3)| |(z_1-z_2)|
= |(z_1-z_2)|

similarily: BC=|(z_1-z_2)|

AB= |z_1-z_2| (obviously:) )

therefore the triangle is equilateral since AB=BC=AC.

btw, would they lead us into this question, if we were to have this on the HSC?:(
 
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Originally posted by freaking_out
correct me if i'm wrong but u find the "other" version of C by observation of the diagram.
Actually it's from substituting w^2=-w-1 into -wz_1-w^2z_2, then subbing w=cis(2pi/3). But yeh, that's all correct.

edit: Just one thing: in an exam, i wouldn't write "similarly" in that case, cos you get BC=|(z_2-z_1)| then have to make it |-(z_1-z_2)|=(z_1-z_2).
 

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