Cronulla Beach Incident (2 Viewers)

[ihavenothing]

Surf lifesavers bashed - North Cronulla Beach

5 December, 2005

Two young surf lifesavers have been bashed in an attack by a group of men at a Sydney beach.

Police say four males confronted the lifesavers at North Cronulla Beach about 3pm yesterday. One of the lifesavers was punched in the face before more men from the group converged on the area, surrounding the guards.

The pair were set upon and sustained several blows to their heads before the melee ended, police said. [...]

The NSW Opposition says a drop in police numbers contributed to the bashing of the lifesavers. [...]

Full Article, SMH

I would just like to say that while i will try not to harbour any racist or intolerant meanings, I would just like to say the way these young men are behaving like animals and as a minority only further burden relationships between other Australians of other backgrounds.

This vile behaviour shouldn't be tolerated any further as there is no more slack in the tether. I would also like to express that this hatred is not only directed to Australians of Anglo descent but to all other walks of life.

I would also not like to hear people who are defending in any way the actions of these people as being second class citizens and wake up to find that it is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to live in an "egalitarian" society in practise as opposed to in theory. Look at the way Catholics and Jews were treated 50 years ago and understand it is not worth fighting for when these things will take some time and nothing drastic can be done to improve the situation.

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EDIT: No link to an article was posted and it was impossible to check the story. Therefore I have replaced the article that was originally quoted. - MS

 

[SashatheMan]

can we have a link to what actually happened at cronulla beach? cuase i dont know

 

[iamsickofyear12]

These people wouldn't do this sort of shit if it was an automatic 20 year sentence with no chance of getting out early. Our laws are way too soft.

 

[Sonic]

20 year sentance thats extreme..
but i agree there should be stricter rules in place for violence especially against someone who is helping the community

 

[melimoo]

yeah my brother just got bashed last friday by 4 guys 2 of them with half a clublock each. 430 pm, around the corner form my house
and they didnt even mug him
cowards
needless to say my bro is a little worse for wear
i want to fucking beat them
what fucking losers

 

[iamsickofyear12]

20 year sentance thats extreme..
but i agree there should be stricter rules in place for violence especially against someone who is helping the community

it's not extreme
if you go looking for people to bash you deserve 20 years

 

[ihavenothing]

That kind of violent mindset needs to be dealt with force in order to properly control and return peace.

 

[zeek]

i havent heard of Lebanese people living in Miranda or Cronulla

 

[zeek]

Well its not like we've spread like the Chinese/Vietnamese.... or have we?!

 

[hiphophooray123]

those damn 2pac and 50 cent videos

 

[ihavenothing]

i havent heard of Lebanese people living in Miranda or Cronulla

They don't live there, cos the Shire is definately an Caucasian-as-a-motherfucker zone, they only drive to the beach in their fully sik pieces of shit to show off and look tough and "above the law" because they think they're black.

 

[MoonlightSonata]

This article confirms that the assailants were of middle-eastern appearance, among a few other details.

 

[hApPy1]

A group of men (racial identity unstated, though highly likely to be lebos) attacked some life guards after the life guards tried to break up a fight between the men.

actually, their racial identity was stated and has obviously influenced you in some respects.

Seriously- can someone logically explain exactly how ones nationality influences their actions. You speak in terms of a race and as though this determines every member of that race....

'they' are very much a minority who have turned into the illusion of a majority (terrorists)

racism is very ignorant...

 

[mr_shittles]

I think what's needed is greater co-operation between the NSW Police Service and the Department of Immigration in order to ensure that high risk categories of indivuals of ethnic backgrounds most likely to cause crime should not be allowed to enter the country.

And before somone says this is a racist idea, no its not, its just common sense.

 

[hApPy1]

I think what's needed is greater co-operation between the NSW Police Service and the Department of Immigration in order to ensure that high risk categories of indivuals of ethnic backgrounds most likely to cause crime should not be allowed to enter the country.

And before somone says this is a racist idea, no its not, its just common sense.

haha, please do explain this "common" sense to us....its so funny how these "ethnic" people make up an otherwise convict nation....dont u just love how we pride ourselves on a "multicultural" nation *cough*

mr_shittles-how does ethnicity (and i speak very directly with these terms) affect the decisions and physical actions of criminals?

 

[Jiga]

i havent heard of Lebanese people living in Miranda or Cronulla

They more than likely came from Bankstown to pick up some foooly seeek chix.

mr_shittles-how does ethnicity (and i speak very directly with these terms) affect the decisions and physical actions of criminals?

Because lebs and arabs etc love violence. Their own countries are fucked with bombings etc, so when they come to Australia and grow up they tone it down to being cowards and bashing people in gangs. And how does race effect whether they are violent? Well Im sure if their were some stats out, you would find higher levels of gangs among immigrated (or 1st generation at least) lebs then say Americans immigrated to here.

What I hate most of all is now my mum has been listening to the radio and Im going to Cronulla today 'Oh dont go, dont go'......thnx sensationalist media......

 

[mr_shittles]

haha, please do explain this "common" sense to us....its so funny how these "ethnic" people make up an otherwise convict nation....dont u just love how we pride ourselves on a "multicultural" nation *cough*

mr_shittles-how does ethnicity (and i speak very directly with these terms) affect the decisions and physical actions of criminals?[/QUOE]

The police force could use its racial profiling in order to determine which categories are "high risk" in terms of criminal activity, and the Immigration Depatrment could revise its policy of sourcing immigrantsa in order to take these factors into account.

I'm not saying that ethnicity is the driver of the criminal behaviour, however if it is possible to identify a relatively higher than average correlation between race and crime, it might be a good idea to use that information in order to reduce the risk of ethnic crime on Australian society.

I think that is common sense, that a sovereign country would attempt to identify where risks exist and mitigate those risks by adjusting policy settings.

 

[Jiga]

The police force could use its racial profiling in order to determine which categories are "high risk" in terms of criminal activity, and the Immigration Depatrment could revise its policy of sourcing immigrantsa in order to take these factors into account.

I'm not saying that ethnicity is the driver of the criminal behaviour, however if it is possible to identify a relatively higher than average correlation between race and crime, it might be a good idea to use that information in order to reduce the risk of ethnic crime on Australian society.

I think that is common sense, that a sovereign country would attempt to identify where risks exist and mitigate those risks by adjusting policy settings.

If only America had done that 200 years ago with African Americans....now they commit like 70%+ of the crimes in the US. Australias coming along nicely it seems to rival that one day

 

[mr_shittles]

Because lebs and arabs etc love violence. :

I don't think thats true. most people, regardless of race or religion hate and deplore violence. The unfortunate thing is that in such a volatile part of the world, violence has become so prevalent, that people are accustomed to it. With large-scale migration, it is possible for violent culture to be transplanted into a place that is relatively peaceful.

 

[mr_shittles]

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If only America had done that 200 years ago with African Americans....now they commit like 70%+ of the crimes in the US. Australias coming along nicely it seems to rival that one day[/QUOTE]

The US brought African Americans in as slaves, in terrible conditions. Many generations of African Americans were denied basic opportunities that you or I take for granted. African American crime is an American problem, because these people are American for generations, and have not always been treated as equal citizens.

It is not as though African Americans were brought in and crime went through the roof.