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3unitz said:
when i asked why a blood sacrifice was necessary for our atonement. you replied with "because humanities sin was too big", which wasnt an answer as leviticus says nothing about the size of the sin, in fact all sin is equal in gods eyes.
I know you werent asking for my opinion , but ill give it anyway and you can take it or leave it:
I could be wrong , but here is what i have thought.
That the sacrifices , before Jesus' ultimate sacrifice , where only enough for the priests etc to go into the temple..that is ,they were only good for the daily living of Gods people , not their eternity.
 

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zimmerman8k said:
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To honour and obey those in authority.
That a man who treats a woman shamefully has a debt to repay.
Makes sense, its not like a rapist is dangerous and should be punsihed. As long as you pay the father some silver pieces its all sweet.
you are also a sinner and also deserve to be punished. as do i
 

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Yay, rape in the Bible!

Judges 21:10-24:

10And the congregation sent thither twelve thousand men of the valiantest, and commanded them, saying, Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead with the edge of the sword, with the women and the children.

11And this is the thing that ye shall do, Ye shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman that hath lain by man.

12And they found among the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead four hundred young virgins, that had known no man by lying with any male: and they brought them unto the camp to Shiloh, which is in the land of Canaan.

13And the whole congregation sent some to speak to the children of Benjamin that were in the rock Rimmon, and to call peaceably unto them.

14And Benjamin came again at that time; and they gave them wives which they had saved alive of the women of Jabeshgilead: and yet so they sufficed them not.

15And the people repented them for Benjamin, because that the LORD had made a breach in the tribes of Israel.

16Then the elders of the congregation said, How shall we do for wives for them that remain, seeing the women are destroyed out of Benjamin?

17And they said, There must be an inheritance for them that be escaped of Benjamin, that a tribe be not destroyed out of Israel.

18Howbeit we may not give them wives of our daughters: for the children of Israel have sworn, saying, Cursed be he that giveth a wife to Benjamin.

19Then they said, Behold, there is a feast of the LORD in Shiloh yearly in a place which is on the north side of Bethel, on the east side of the highway that goeth up from Bethel to Shechem, and on the south of Lebonah.

20Therefore they commanded the children of Benjamin, saying, Go and lie in wait in the vineyards;

21And see, and, behold, if the daughters of Shiloh come out to dance in dances, then come ye out of the vineyards, and catch you every man his wife of the daughters of Shiloh, and go to the land of Benjamin.

22And it shall be, when their fathers or their brethren come unto us to complain, that we will say unto them, Be favourable unto them for our sakes: because we reserved not to each man his wife in the war: for ye did not give unto them at this time, that ye should be guilty.

23And the children of Benjamin did so, and took them wives, according to their number, of them that danced, whom they caught: and they went and returned unto their inheritance, and repaired the cities, and dwelt in them.

24And the children of Israel departed thence at that time, every man to his tribe and to his family, and they went out from thence every man to his inheritance.
 

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*TRUE* said:
I know you werent asking for my opinion , but ill give it anyway and you can take it or leave it:
I could be wrong , but here is what i have thought.
That the sacrifices , before Jesus' ultimate sacrifice , where only enough for the priests etc to go into the temple..that is ,they were only good for the daily living of Gods people , not their eternity.
thanks i was thinking along those lines but i wanted someone elses opinion
 

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zimmerman8k said:
okay fine. maybe thats true. but the bible is very specific in saying that an appropriate punishment for rape is payment of 50 silver pieces. Do you think this applies in a modern context? Or even that it was appropriate then. I think its a huge stretch to extend being able to pay off a rape debt to being analogous to any sort of punishment that would be considered remotely acceptable today.
like i have previously stated i am unsure about the meaning of that passage.
 

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emytaylor164 said:
true if you are there i am struggling with this one can you help me

when i asked why a blood sacrifice was necessary for our atonement. you replied with "because humanities sin was too big", which wasnt an answer as leviticus says nothing about the size of the sin, in fact all sin is equal in gods eyes.
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ok:)
Im just having dinner , so ill be back later:)
 

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3unitz said:
i asked why a blood sacrifice was necessary for our atonement. you replied with "because humanities sin was too big", which wasnt an answer as leviticus says nothing about the size of the sin, in fact all sin is equal in gods eyes.
My understanding is that the crucifixion was necessary to absolve humans of the original sin all men were born with following adam and eve's fall from eden, all were sinners before this, jesus set it straight, possible for salvation, amirite?
 

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emytaylor164 said:
like i have previously stated i am unsure about the meaning of that passage.
How many meanings can it have?

Obviously the punishment for rape was to pay the womans father 50 silver pieces and then marry her forever!

HOW MANY MEANINGS CAN THAT HAVE?
 

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boris said:
How many meanings can it have?

Obviously the punishment for rape was to pay the womans father 50 silver pieces and then marry her forever!

HOW MANY MEANINGS CAN THAT HAVE?
Rape is a sin and the punishment for sin is death. what i think it that that was the thing to do if you were in that circimstance.
i gtg ttyl laters
 

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emytaylor164 said:
Rape is a sin and the punishment for sin is death. what i think it that that was the thing to do if you were in that circimstance.
i gtg ttyl laters
*slaps forehead*

Judge Judy is on

bye guys
 

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This thread needs an expert christian scholar. Uni students arguing with a pair of school girls is lame.
 

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CSU has a Theology school

I'll see if I can dig up some willing participants
 

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Graney said:
This thread needs an expert christian scholar. Uni students arguing with a pair of school girls is lame.
Im not a school girl:)
 

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Schroedinger said:
Ever since Bradcube's necked himself. I'm willing to play devil's advocate and not put up straw men if we want to play a game in accordance with poe's law?

Let's see what we can do. I don't think you necessarily have to be an apt theologian, just a skilled debater.

Does this sound like a good idea to kill time?
Dont you have anything better that you can kill time with? I thought this thread was about understadning different perspectives...oh.
 

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It would be pretty funny if there was a God and he was just fucking around with us.
 

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