• Congratulations to the Class of 2024 on your results!
    Let us know how you went here
    Got a question about your uni preferences? Ask us here

Does God exist? (1 Viewer)

do you believe in god?


  • Total voters
    1,570

Iron

Ecclesiastical Die-Hard
Joined
Jul 14, 2004
Messages
7,765
Gender
Male
HSC
2004
I would say that they were morally married though guys. She was created from him; they were essentially the same person. The whole point of marriage is to replicate this bond
 

Kwayera

Passive-aggressive Mod
Joined
May 10, 2004
Messages
5,959
Location
Antarctica
Gender
Female
HSC
2005
emytaylor164 said:
why would you need a ceremony or a legal contract when you were created as a wife for a man.
She was not created as a wife. She was created as a companion.


Also, does anyone find the fact that she was supposedly created from "Adam's rib" (thus being closely, if not identical, genetically) and then they went on to have children together extremely disturbing?
 

emytaylor164

Active Member
Joined
Feb 13, 2007
Messages
1,736
Gender
Female
HSC
N/A
25 The man and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.

genesis 2:25

key word wife they were married.
 
Last edited:

*TRUE*

Tiny dancer
Joined
Apr 30, 2008
Messages
1,654
Location
Couch
Gender
Female
HSC
N/A
Kwayera said:
She was not created as a wife. She was created as a companion.


Also, does anyone find the fact that she was supposedly created from "Adam's rib" (thus being closely, if not identical, genetically) and then they went on to have children together extremely disturbing?
Lol. YES. I used to be so freaked out...actually not about adam and eve , but their children. There was no one else , so their children would have to partner with , and procreate with...each other!
EW!!!!
Later on God outlawed incest too. So i was confused and disgusted for ages about that:)
 

boris

Banned
Joined
May 6, 2004
Messages
4,671
Gender
Male
HSC
2007
emytaylor164 said:
25 The man and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.

genesis 2:25

key word wife they were married.
Not necessarily, because wife may not have always meant married and certainly if they were the first people on earth, where did they get the idea of marriage from?
 

Kwayera

Passive-aggressive Mod
Joined
May 10, 2004
Messages
5,959
Location
Antarctica
Gender
Female
HSC
2005
emytaylor164 said:
25 The man and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.

genesis 2:25

key word wife they were married.

wikipedia said:
The term originated from the Middle English wif, from Old English wīf, woman, wife, from Germanic * wībam, woman, related to Modern German Weib (woman, wife),[1] from the Indo-European root ghwībh-; wīb, literally meaning "vagina".[2]. (Compare the semantic transfer of the modern word "cunt".) The original meaning of “wife” as simply “woman”, unconnected with marriage, is preserved in words like “midwife” and “fishwife”.
.
 

emytaylor164

Active Member
Joined
Feb 13, 2007
Messages
1,736
Gender
Female
HSC
N/A
*TRUE* said:
Lol. YES. I used to be so freaked out...actually not about adam and eve , but their children. There was no one else , so their children would have to partner with , and procreate with...each other!
EW!!!!
Later on God outlawed incest too. So i was confused and disgusted for ages about that:)
the reason it was not an issue then because it did not carry the risk of deformaties e.t.c
 

emytaylor164

Active Member
Joined
Feb 13, 2007
Messages
1,736
Gender
Female
HSC
N/A
boris said:
Not necessarily, because wife may not have always meant married and certainly if they were the first people on earth, where did they get the idea of marriage from?
For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh. i think that is when marraige came about and the idea of marraige
 

boris

Banned
Joined
May 6, 2004
Messages
4,671
Gender
Male
HSC
2007
emytaylor164 said:
the reason it was not an issue then because it did not carry the risk of deformaties e.t.c
Why didn't it?

Why does incest carry risks of deformities now, and didn't back then? What is different?
 

KFunk

Psychic refugee
Joined
Sep 19, 2004
Messages
3,323
Location
Sydney
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
emytaylor164 said:
the reason it was not an issue then because it did not carry the risk of deformaties e.t.c
What if medical technology allows us to fully eliminate such risks?
 

*TRUE*

Tiny dancer
Joined
Apr 30, 2008
Messages
1,654
Location
Couch
Gender
Female
HSC
N/A
emytaylor164 said:
the reason it was not an issue then because it did not carry the risk of deformaties e.t.c
Id say the children did carry the RISK of mutation ( sin already in action)
:)
 

boris

Banned
Joined
May 6, 2004
Messages
4,671
Gender
Male
HSC
2007
emytaylor164 said:
For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh. i think that is when marraige came about and the idea of marraige
From the early Christian era marriage was thought of as primarily a private matter, with no religious or other ceremony being required.[citation needed] Prior to 1545 Christian marriages in Europe were by mutual consent, declaration of intention to marry and upon the subsequent physical union of the parties.
.
 

emytaylor164

Active Member
Joined
Feb 13, 2007
Messages
1,736
Gender
Female
HSC
N/A
boris said:
Why didn't it?

Why does incest carry risks of deformities now, and didn't back then? What is different?
because the diseases had not formed yet
 

inasero

Reborn
Joined
Nov 27, 2002
Messages
2,497
Gender
Male
HSC
2003
*TRUE* said:
Lol. YES. I used to be so freaked out...actually not about adam and eve , but their children. There was no one else , so their children would have to partner with , and procreate with...each other!
EW!!!!
Later on God outlawed incest too. So i was confused and disgusted for ages about that:)
when you look in the bible and you see ppl like noah and methuselah living till nearly 1000, and what's interesting is that the people get progressively younger as the generations pass. then God says man would live 120 years max. I think that when people sinned and came out of the garden of eden their dna started changing (the consequence of fallen nature) and death and disease entered the world. over time these changes would have accumulated to a point where it was necessary to mandate incest a social taboo for obvious health reasons (much like refraining from eating pork in the OT).

Just my theory though, I may be wrong.
 

emytaylor164

Active Member
Joined
Feb 13, 2007
Messages
1,736
Gender
Female
HSC
N/A
*TRUE* said:
Id say the children did carry the RISK of mutation ( sin already in action)
:)
oh yeah probably but i dont think it would of been as prevalent
 

Captain Gh3y

Rhinorhondothackasaurus
Joined
Aug 10, 2005
Messages
4,153
Location
falling from grace with god
Gender
Male
HSC
2005
hey if there was a 100% definitive genetic test that could determine if someone was going to be a homosexual in the early stages of pregnancy, would you support abortions for these people? :D
 

*TRUE*

Tiny dancer
Joined
Apr 30, 2008
Messages
1,654
Location
Couch
Gender
Female
HSC
N/A
KFunk said:
What if medical technology allows us to fully eliminate such risks?
social taboo these days my friend, I very much doubt that would wither away overnight. Plus...like , who'd want to. We have lots of choice these days..... :)
 

emytaylor164

Active Member
Joined
Feb 13, 2007
Messages
1,736
Gender
Female
HSC
N/A
inasero said:
when you look in the bible and you see ppl like noah and methuselah living till nearly 1000, and what's interesting is that the people get progressively younger as the generations pass. then God says man would live 120 years max. I think that when people sinned and came out of the garden of eden their dna started changing (the consequence of fallen nature) and death and disease entered the world. over time these changes would have accumulated to a point where it was necessary to mandate incest a social taboo for obvious health reasons (much like refraining from eating pork in the OT).

Just my theory though, I may be wrong.
bearing in mind that there calender system was different
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top