Does God exist? (1 Viewer)

[Bored_of_HSC]

That's the true test of faith, that we can still trust God midst all misfortunes

I'm sorry to be this blunt but if you're using "faith" as an arguement, the logic ends here.

You're trying to be apologetic for gods mistakes and failures by saying "we should trust him!!11"

 

[fatima96]

To have a lack of belief in God I think shows an absence of required knowledge.
Without God, how did everything come into existence?
The answer can never simply be evolution. The complexity and detail present in life on earth will never be explained by such a vague theory.Where did evolution start? How did bacterium essentially appear on the earth to start this lengthy process? How did abiotic environmental factors evolve? Where is the evidence that apes turned to humans? The proof for the transition is lacking.Surely not from bacteria.
Evolution does not provide details as to the development of intelligent design, eg: DNA, microscopic mechanisms in cells and bacteria allowing them to carry out functions essential to life, an example being the rotary motor in the flagellum of prokaryotic and eukaryotic cells.
Intelligent design proves the existence of a supreme being (Allah), in which EVOLUTION does not. The theory of evolution created by man does not prove that Allah (God) does not exist.
The probability of the earth banging into existence, and humans evolving from bacteria is IMPOSSIBLE.
Without God, we are nothing. He has designed creation so perfectly, & to him we shall return.



Nothing can come from nothing. Creation must be created by the creator. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT GOD & SCIENCE GO HAND IN HAND!

 

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That's the true test of faith, that we can still trust God midst all misfortunes

he doesnt give us any reason to though..besides a book

 

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To have a lack of belief in God I think shows an absence of required knowledge.
Without God, how did everything come into existence?
The answer can never simply be evolution. The complexity and detail present in life on earth will never be explained by such a vague theory.Where did evolution start? How did bacterium essentially appear on the earth to start this lengthy process? How did abiotic environmental factors evolve? Where is the evidence that apes turned to humans? The proof for the transition is lacking.Surely not from bacteria.
Evolution does not provide details as to the development of intelligent design, eg: DNA, microscopic mechanisms in cells and bacteria allowing them to carry out functions essential to life, an example being the rotary motor in the flagellum of prokaryotic and eukaryotic cells.
Intelligent design proves the existence of a supreme being (Allah), in which EVOLUTION does not. The theory of evolution created by man does not prove that Allah (God) does not exist.
The probability of the earth banging into existence, and humans evolving from bacteria is IMPOSSIBLE.
Without God, we are nothing. He has designed creation so perfectly, & to him we shall return.



Nothing can come from nothing. Creation must be created by the creator. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT GOD & SCIENCE GO HAND IN HAND!

by your logic, god cant exist either

 

[fatima96]

he doesnt give us any reason to though..besides a book

Everything you have is a reason to believe in God, the air water everything around you! It is a proof of his existence!

 

[lolcakes52]

Everything you have is a reason to believe in God, the air water everything around you! It is a proof of his existence!

OMGOD, This is totally the same proof for my belief that universe was started by a flying unicorn who shoots towers of fire out of its anus. Thankyou so much

 

[fatima96]

Teacher: Can you see God?
Student: No.
Teacher: Then there is no God.
Student: Can you see your brain?
Teacher: No.
Student: Then you have no brain.

Simple, don't need it see to believe. The ugliness in this world is what makes it a test. God has put it there so we would have a purpose, to fight all the evil we can, to bring justice into our communities. We can not simply sit back and expect God to do it all. That would make our existence POINTLESS. See, this comes under free will too. Satan had free will to be evil. You have free will to be evil. In the end, God lets you be the decision maker but you'll face the ultimate consequence!

 

[planino]

also in response to your analogy, its kinda flawed as when a parent takes away your chocolate, they do so before you get a painful toothache as to avert it. however according to you , god on the other hand would take away the chocolate after you get a toothache and not only that he also punishes you for not knowing that the chocolate causes toothaches.

The parent takes away the chocolate because they love us. God can take away pleasures from us when he notices that we're unhealthily becoming addicted to them because all pleasures in this world are temporary. Rather than commit more sins and take repeated births pursuing temporary happiness (the 'toothache') God encourages us to strive for Heaven (by making this world a less and less attractive place to live in. He is also simultaneously neutralising our sins), where everlasting happiness lies.

Also, please explain the bolded bit further

 

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by your logic, god cant exist either

also the reason that evolution and the big bang theory is still a theory is because it requires direct, hard evidence for it to become a fact however given the fact that its still impossible to obtain that evidence for obvious reasons it remains a theory.

on the other hand however 'intelligent design' requires no evidence whatsoever and is extremely convenient as the answer is always 'god did it'. however this still doesnt prove that its true.

 

[fatima96]

No worries. That was a nice display of your respect.

 

[RealiseNothing]

"Religion is stupid" - Albert Einstein.

There is your answer guys, from the man himself.

 

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Teacher: Can you see God?
Student: No.
Teacher: Then there is no God.
Student: Can you see your brain?
Teacher: No.
Student: Then you have no brain.

Simple, don't need it see to believe. The ugliness in this world is what makes it a test. God has put it there so we would have a purpose, to fight all the evil we can, to bring justice into our communities. We can not simply sit back and expect God to do it all. That would make our existence POINTLESS. See, this comes under free will too. Satan had free will to be evil. You have free will to be evil. In the end, God lets you be the decision maker but you'll face the ultimate consequence!

however we know that we have a brain because we've carried out dissections and studied the anatomy and therefore have solid proof that the brain exists in everyone. however god cannot be proven to exist unless he comes down and proves it himself

 

[fatima96]

by your logic, you obviously have read nothing. you show ignorance to everything. seriously? be mature.

 

[fatima96]

hahahahahaahahaha, no.
he didn't say that!
he said this :
A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man. (Albert Einstein)

 

[Bored_of_HSC]

Teacher: Can you see God?
Student: No.
Teacher: Then there is no God.
Student: Can you see your brain?
Teacher: No.
Student: Then you have no brain.

Simple, don't need it see to believe. The ugliness in this world is what makes it a test. God has put it there so we would have a purpose, to fight all the evil we can, to bring justice into our communities. We can not simply sit back and expect God to do it all. That would make our existence POINTLESS. See, this comes under free will too. Satan had free will to be evil. You have free will to be evil. In the end, God lets you be the decision maker but you'll face the ultimate consequence!

But we can actually feel, see and touch our brains...

Don't impose your "justice" on me.

Also non of us have free will. We're just programmed to think and feel in certain ways. That'd explain why you could so easily have been a christian, hindu or believe in the norse gods.

No worries. You are very disrespectful.

I'm sorry but who's the one saying we're gonna burn in hell? I'm sorry but i find that very disrespectful.

 

[fatima96]

by your logic, god cant exist either

by your logic, you obviously have read nothing.

 

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The parent takes away the chocolate because they love us. God can take away pleasures from us when he notices that we're unhealthily becoming addicted to them because all pleasures in this world are temporary. Rather than commit more sins and take repeated births pursuing temporary happiness (the 'toothache') God encourages us to strive for Heaven (by making this world a less and less attractive place to live in. He is also simultaneously neutralising our sins), where everlasting happiness lies.

Also, please explain the bolded bit further

you just said earlier that god loves us.....

the 'according to you part' is referring to your belief that god punishes us for sins in our past and present life

 

[Bored_of_HSC]

"Religion is stupid" - Albert Einstein.

There is your answer guys, from the man himself.

M8 einstein just said he believed in god. Look at examine's post.

 

[Bored_of_HSC]

A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man. (Albert Einstein)

Why do you assume he was talking about religion there? Can you not see that there is so much other beauty out in the world?

 

[RealiseNothing]

hahahahahaahahaha, no.
he didn't say that!
he said this :
A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man. (Albert Einstein)

Nice quote, too bad Einstein wasn't religious.