Wow, 2 of my teachers told me the exact same thing. I don't know who to believe.
It's amazing how students how are doing their H.S.C in Years 2010 and 2011, think they know more than a person whose actually gone through the whole process, asked as many teachers as he could, and talked to people from UAC.
#2 SCHOOL DOES NOT EFFECT RANK, What if the granville high 2nd highest was 90? Who is better then? BoS doesnt even make the school ranks, private companies do, mainly media ones, to make a quick buck.
School Ranks, as I stated, indicate the level of Band 6s schools achieve - the more indicate the safer you will be, the less, such as Granville, indicate that the lower you are ranked at these schools, the worse your mark will be. Here are the stats:
1. James Ruse Agricultural High School ............................. 1113 ........... 801 .... 71.97
So, that means, if you were in the Top 71.97% of the Grade, you got a Band 6.
Let's look at another school:
100.Marcellin College .................................................. ..... 797 .............. 110 ... 13.87
That indicates a Band 6 would equate to being in the Top 13.87%
So yes, schools do have a big impact on rank. The higher ranked your school, the higher that chance that YOU will get a higher mark, due to large % of band 6s.
Incorrect.
The board maps the top mark of the school then correlates a quadratically increasing graph which will follow the same basic shape as the school assessment marks and/or the HSC exam marks (not sure which), for which students marks are placed upon.
What I'm saying is that if the school assessment marks are: 80, 59, 58, and the HSC marks are 95, 93, 91 - Person A gets 95, Person B will probably get around 80 something, but not 93.
This is false information. Your school mark directly correlates with how well your school (peers) performs. Not only have I heard this from teachers/UAC advisors, but also experienced it first hand.
For instance, say I scored 96 in Modern History. After asking for everyone in my class, that turned out to be the highest mark. So my H.S.C EXAM Mark is 96. However, I was
NOT ranked first, and the person who was, received an
ASSESSMENT mark of 96 -
MY Mark. Now, as I was ranked 4th, I received the 4th highest mark as my
ASSESSMENT mark which as 91. SO that pulls down my Mark to a final H.S.C score of 94.
Why do you think teachers tell you RANK is important and not school marks?
How are the H.S.C markers supposed to know what to give you for your assessment marks? Each school is different, some marks more harshly, some more lenient. This is why they said, your RANK at school, will determine you assessment mark, which is also derived from the H.S.C Exam. This is also why, near the end of the trials, you are encouraged to
AID one another. As you all want everyone to do well, so YOU are safer.
#3 Parents survive to send their kids to ruse because they are ill-informed or they more competition the harder the kid works, which is true to some extent.
I sense denial. I went to a selective school, and we were all envious of Ruse, as we knew that they would pump out more Band 6s, which in turn leads to better marks overall. I'm not going to moan how it's misinformation or unfair. Ruse is a great high school that will ensure you get higher marks. However, that doesn't mean you can't do the same at another school. Ranking at 1st will give you a good striking chance at getting a great ATAR.
What if the granville high 2nd highest was 90?
If you're ranked below 1st, you're banking on the fact that your peers will do well. If you're ranked as first, you know 100% that you will get the highest mark, whether it be 90 or 70. I know of a girl who came 1st in all her subjects at a normal public school, and ended up with an ATAR of 95.1. You would expect a higher ATAR with her rank, but since her school did not perform at a high caliber, she was given what she was given. Likewise, a boy who was pulling mediocre ranks in Baulkham Hills managed an ATAR of 97.8, due to the fact that his school did better overall.
I'm saying is that if the school assessment marks are: 80, 59, 58, and the HSC marks are 95, 93, 91 - Person A gets 95, Person B will probably get around 80 something, but not 93.
Like I said, FALSE. Assessment marks are derived from your rank, and your peer's performance in H.S.C
So thus, whilst school ranks don't seem to matter explicitly per say (thus, no marks deduction or boost for which school you attend). They do indeed make a big impact in terms of performance.
