economics @ USYD or UNSW?? (1 Viewer)
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lol i stand corrected haha, but the vast majority of people tend to stick up for their uni's!Trajan said:Not really, I hate UNSW and it's prettaayy sh$t tbh...I go there......Usyd owns all unis in NSW..!!!
^ @ post above unless blake has studied at both syd and nsw then he probably has no idea and if his hsc completion date isn't a troll then you'd presume he doesn't.
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So UNSW moves to a 12 week session with a midsession break after 2 weeks and I get swamped with work, AND I MISS THIS THREAD.
clearly this is the be all and end all of all threads seeing as I love my economics.
I'd say Usyd breaks up their students into two streams of average eco students to honours eco students from second year.
UNSW teaches at the same level for everyone. If you thought the maths was hard before, UNSW has totally picked it up and taken it to another level this year. It's pretty much all maths. I don't like that, I think you lose some of the understanding. Importantly, economics graduates are usually considered to be good at written expression. UNSW making it all maths just destroys that a bit. Although it does make their graduates probably a bit more able to find corner solutions, which is the take that most industry is said to have on USYD grads already. So comparatively nothing is lost by that change. On the other hand, they have traded in some of the practical intuition that UNSW eco grads are known for.
As a student at UNSW I can honestly say economics and any other major in the school of business is going down the tube, and I'm not affraid to say that. 12 week sessions are a joke. They have cut half the content out of most of the courses, and anything that is left is taught, at best, rather simplistically. There is insufficient time, marks have dropped and they are having to scale exams. Students are under enourmous pressure in courses where the lecturers refuse to cut down the content. Normally I would sit here and say I love UNSW, its the best and I'd fight to the death over that point. Now I will say, it lacks, it sucks, they have turned into a degree pumping machine where they honestly dont care about the quality of their graduates, and are going to try to take advantage of their "superior" branding over the next few years.
For fucks sake, they make everything a multiple choice exam so they can get it computer marked. Oh and get this, they don't let you keep the exam or get your answers back. Why? Because they use the same fucken questions every year. So anyone who tops a subject usually just knew someone who somehow got their hands on a past exam. What a joke!
UNSW = such a joke, I'm disgusted with what is has become. It used to be so much better.
That being said, I'm focusing on all the bad points. I'm sure other uni's have them, I'm just being honest enough to say them.
UNSW SCHOOL OF BUSINESS SCORE OUT OF TEN SESSION 1 2008 ----> 0/10
PATHETIC!
clearly this is the be all and end all of all threads seeing as I love my economics.
I'd say Usyd breaks up their students into two streams of average eco students to honours eco students from second year.
UNSW teaches at the same level for everyone. If you thought the maths was hard before, UNSW has totally picked it up and taken it to another level this year. It's pretty much all maths. I don't like that, I think you lose some of the understanding. Importantly, economics graduates are usually considered to be good at written expression. UNSW making it all maths just destroys that a bit. Although it does make their graduates probably a bit more able to find corner solutions, which is the take that most industry is said to have on USYD grads already. So comparatively nothing is lost by that change. On the other hand, they have traded in some of the practical intuition that UNSW eco grads are known for.
As a student at UNSW I can honestly say economics and any other major in the school of business is going down the tube, and I'm not affraid to say that. 12 week sessions are a joke. They have cut half the content out of most of the courses, and anything that is left is taught, at best, rather simplistically. There is insufficient time, marks have dropped and they are having to scale exams. Students are under enourmous pressure in courses where the lecturers refuse to cut down the content. Normally I would sit here and say I love UNSW, its the best and I'd fight to the death over that point. Now I will say, it lacks, it sucks, they have turned into a degree pumping machine where they honestly dont care about the quality of their graduates, and are going to try to take advantage of their "superior" branding over the next few years.
For fucks sake, they make everything a multiple choice exam so they can get it computer marked. Oh and get this, they don't let you keep the exam or get your answers back. Why? Because they use the same fucken questions every year. So anyone who tops a subject usually just knew someone who somehow got their hands on a past exam. What a joke!
UNSW = such a joke, I'm disgusted with what is has become. It used to be so much better.
That being said, I'm focusing on all the bad points. I'm sure other uni's have them, I'm just being honest enough to say them.
UNSW SCHOOL OF BUSINESS SCORE OUT OF TEN SESSION 1 2008 ----> 0/10
PATHETIC!
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I've found economics to be the faculty that cuts the most corners. I conclude this from the foundational subjects, both of which teach nothing in tutorials since they are taken up by people presenting their assessments.
Not to mention the macroeconomics mid session, which was obviously outsourced, because the questions used terms that were inconsistent with lecture notes.
But hey, I guess 800 students studying a course shouldn't mean a lecturer should have to sit down and come up with 25 original multi-choice questions a semester
I'm bitter too but thankfully I've found the accounting and finance faculties to be *much* *much* *much* better.
The 12-week semester is a sham but so is university in general, in Australia. I speak to a lot of people at work from the UK and USA and their university experiences sound much more sophisticated, not to mention fun...
I've told people from overseas that I was doing 12 contact hours of uni a week and they asked if that was part-time. Then I told them that no, that was full-time, and they just look at me bewildered.
As a result I can't really fault UNSW as such but tertiary education in general in this country. It's not right.
Let's hope the brand pulls through.
Not to mention the macroeconomics mid session, which was obviously outsourced, because the questions used terms that were inconsistent with lecture notes.
But hey, I guess 800 students studying a course shouldn't mean a lecturer should have to sit down and come up with 25 original multi-choice questions a semester
I'm bitter too but thankfully I've found the accounting and finance faculties to be *much* *much* *much* better.
The 12-week semester is a sham but so is university in general, in Australia. I speak to a lot of people at work from the UK and USA and their university experiences sound much more sophisticated, not to mention fun...
I've told people from overseas that I was doing 12 contact hours of uni a week and they asked if that was part-time. Then I told them that no, that was full-time, and they just look at me bewildered.
As a result I can't really fault UNSW as such but tertiary education in general in this country. It's not right.
Let's hope the brand pulls through.
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Does anyone know this for a fact or does it just seem that the uiversity does this?Conspirocy said:
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wow trajan, I always thought you liked your degree.Trajan said:
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ah, thats no good. you're doing commerce at unsw ay?Trajan said:
what major?
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beergarden..Trajan said:
please sir, do go on.
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o rly.pete_mate said:
proof?
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he has no proof, further since rba is a national grad program that makes his statement all the more redundant.
http://rba.recruitasp.com.au/profiles.jsp, just a few graduate profiles.
http://rba.recruitasp.com.au/profiles.jsp, just a few graduate profiles.
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pete_mate said:
Pete, mate. Get your facts straight. :rofl:.ifsonotso_100 said:
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If we're talking about honours, have a look at these two pages:
UNSW Eco honours criteria:
http://www.asb.unsw.edu.au/schools/...nours/Pages/additionalhonoursinformation.aspx
USYD Eco honours criteria:
http://sydney.edu.au/arts/economics/undergrad/honours.shtml
i'm doing the honours program this year at usyd and i can already tell you that it is more challenging than the ordinary stream. from my friends that go to unsw and from what i gather from these two sources, usyd's entry into economics honours is a lot more complicated and difficult to get into, not just in process, but also with the marks - and to me, that says something about the graduates from usyd's eco honours program compared to those from unsw's