no necessarily.. because perhaps if he screws up, then maybe he will still be the highest..iEdd said:Or looking at it differently, moderating works VERY well for you, because you are guaranteed a good assessment mark if you screw up somewhat in the exams.
its the relative differences between the marks and the order of those marks that matters. so yes, the marks do mean something.. but its not really the marks, more the relative differences between marks.. i.e. sending in the marks of 10,20,60 for persons A,B,C is not the same as 10,50,60 for persons A,B,C. however sending in 10,20,30 would be the same as sending in 20,50,80 for A,B,C respectively.sonnylongbottom said:So do the marks your school sends to the board of studies actually worth anything? or is it just your rank
if you mean if you come 2nd in school assessment, but for the external you get a higher exam mark than the exam mark of the person who came 1st in school assessment, then it doesn't mean they get your mark, it means they get for their internal assessement the external mark of the person who came first in the externals.leon4u said:so let me get this str8, if i come 2nd in a subject and i beat 1st by more than 5% in the external exam they steal my mark?
i really need this answer cause im 2nd in alot of subs
leon4u said:but does that mean i get their external mark if they come 2nd?
External Exam Mark
does that mean Bob gets 92 and Chris gets the 86?
NO!ala7923 said:So... the school marks that the teacher sends in has no impact on the final marks? Since they're moderated to become the 1st, 2nd 3rd etc. exam marks. Is that right?
Rudroll said:So what's the point of aligned marks if they don't contribute to your UAI?
Is it just to make us seem smarter than we are? To show our friends that we got a band 5 when really the mark we got would have equaled a band 3?
Oh okay, but cem what would happen if I was put in this position (and I am):cem said:NO!
The marks the school sends in is extremely important - not as a mark per se but as an indication of the relative difference (gap) between the students.
First and last place internally get the first and last place exam marks respectively as their moderated assessment marks.
All other moderated assessment marks have to reflect the rank AND relative difference between the students.
Student A could be coming first by 10 marks internally over Student B but Student B could come second in the exam by only one mark. Student B won't then get their exam mark as their moderated assessment mark (but they do keep their own exam mark). Student B's moderated assessment mark must also reflect the relative gap between the two students and so they would get an assessment mark about 6 - 7 marks behind due to the aligning process but it reflects the dominance of Student A at school.
Really? what if there is one guy killing the whole grade by like 10 marks and he gets like 95 and the rest get marginally lower marks, does that mean the rest of them have no chance at a band 6?cem said:NO.
If the BOS really had their way there would be only Bands.
Bands describe what you can do in a general sense.
However, the non-education (not non-educated) public understand a concept of pass and fail with 50% meaning pass so the BOS decided that Band 2 had to equal 50%. The general idea of Band 2 is that is meeting the 'minimum standards' of the course. Consequently 99% of students approximately, who can do at least Band 2, needed to have marks that the general populace understand as passing the course - hence aligning to bring the raw marks that equate to the 'minimum standard' up to 50% and thus all other marks had to align upwards as well.
I meant internally he killed everyone by like 10+ marks e.g 90,80,78,76... are the top 4 ranks marks but in the externalthe marks are: 95,94,93,92 does that mean the assessment marks of the other 3 will be dropped by a lot of marks?iEdd said:^Wha? How did you infer that, from that? If the rest get marginally lower marks and similarly for the externals, not a whole lot will change.
Zephyrio said:Oh okay, but cem what would happen if I was put in this position (and I am):
I came first in advanced English by around 10 marks, yet I feel that I've drastically underperformed in the HSC external. What would happen to my internal assessment mark? Would it be the highest exam mark recorded by my grade only?