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vasuu91 said:
me: OMGGGGGGGG I GOT 98.95!!!!
dad: are u joking???
mum: omg thats amazing, i'm off to show off to all our indian relatives!
sister: f*ck are u serious?
dad: did u just swear??!?!!

lololololol

happiest day of my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lolz...that's hilarious!!!!!
go u tho...that's reli great
 

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dp624 said:
Isn't UWS a 95 cutoff.
95 is a lot easier than 99.50 (median for UNSW)
you know what dp i don't think i've heard what your familys reaction was. if you already said it i apologise, but i'm not one to search through threads haha.
 

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sitting in frankfurt airport while mum gets luggage off the baggage carousel..
frantically texting older brother, asking what my uai is

[insert uai]

me: staring at the mobile phone screen, feeling my eyes going watery

mum comes over

me: [insert name] told me my uai
its [insert 2 digit number rounded off to 1 decimal place]

mum: oh, you should still get into your course

nooooooooooooo
 

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i like frankfurters... yum

95 is infinitely easier than 99+

its not a linear scale in terms of difficulty people!
 

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Yeah, frankfurters rock.

Couldn't get into the site for ages. get uai, call up parents.

Me: "95.35, mum."

Mum: "Fuck off."

Me: "serious."

No work all year. all band 6's with 2 band 5's. 95.35. fucking win.
 

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Even to get into UWS med, you'd still need a very good UAI. competition is still strong no matter which uni it is. Everybody wants to get into med, esp all the asians. My UMAt score was bad but it wasn't that bad and I still got rejected for UWS med before the UAIs came out.
At uws the cut off is 95 (93 for gws applicants) so there is no difference between a person who gets 95.1 and a person who gets 99.9

you still have to get ~9x pct UMAT and interview performance is heavily weighted
ALOT lower if u live in the gws region. If ur in gws then u can expect an interview with about high 160 raw if not then yeah 9x percentile
 

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ah damn... i go to a private school, and because of that my whole family expects me to get 90+
but im certain i cant do that... My parents keep telling me... if you dont go well, u will be the laughing stock of the entire family... im like. woah... im not a genius..

But im sure i will get 80+

UAI aim - 86 <--- i will be a happy man. I just want to get into UNI...

gl to all =)
 

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ah damn... i go to a private school, and because of that my whole family expects me to get 90+
but im certain i cant do that... My parents keep telling me... if you dont go well, u will be the laughing stock of the entire family... im like. woah... im not a genius..

But im sure i will get 80+

UAI aim - 86 <--- i will be a happy man. I just want to get into UNI...

gl to all =)
Don't worry. For 90+, the HSC requires no genius. There is a heavy emphasis on memory though.

"High" UAI people tend to = either naturally gifted doing little or a lot (minority) / not so gifted people studying like Asians (majority).
 

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At uws the cut off is 95 (93 for gws applicants) so there is no difference between a person who gets 95.1 and a person who gets 99.9



ALOT lower if u live in the gws region. If ur in gws then u can expect an interview with about high 160 raw if not then yeah 9x percentile
it's pretty shit how they're separated into two different pools, based solely on where you live (as i've been told by many, including those who study MBBS at UWS).

anyone wanna clarify this?
 

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it's pretty shit how they're separated into two different pools, based solely on where you live (as i've been told by many, including those who study MBBS at UWS).

anyone wanna clarify this?
Quoted from medstudentsonline aka MSO

UWS School of Medicine

The UWS School of Medicine accepted its first intake of students in 2007, after being accredited by the Australian Medical Council in 2006. It achieved federal government funding and state government support in 2004 as a means of addressing the emerging medical workforce shortage in Greater Western Sydney (GWS) and to improve retention of doctors in the area.

It offers a Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery (MBBS) degree and is active in research at all levels.

The school is based at the University’s Campbelltown campus, an area being developed as a focal point for the teaching and research of health sciences and medicine at UWS. Clinical schools exist at Campbelltown and Blacktown Hospitals and will provide an introduction to clinical medicine for students in years 1 and 2 and clinical placements through years 3-5.

Greater Western Sydney

Greater Western Sydney has a population of 1.85 million people and is the second fastest growing population in Australia. It comprises 14 local government areas with a combined economic output totalling $54 billion per year – making it the third largest economy in Australia. It is also regarded as a being a particularly diverse and multicultural region of the country.

The GWS region is regarded as being critically under served by GPs and medical specialists and it is hoped the establishment of a medical school in the area will go some ways toward addressing the problem.

To qualify as a GWS applicant you must of one of the following local government electorates:

Auburn Council, Bankstown City Council, The Council of the Shire of Baulkham Hills, Blacktown City Council, Blue Mountains City Council, Camden Council, Campbelltown City Council, Fairfield City Council, Hawkesbury City Council, Holroyd City Council, Liverpool City Council, Parramatta City Council, Penrith City Council & Wollondilly Shire Council. [/font]


Student Demographics

In 2007, 104 Students were enrolled in the first year of the new UWS Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery course. Of these, 55% were female and 60% of students were residents of Greater Western Sydney, 11% of students were from interstate. About half of students were school leavers with students who had completed or commenced an initial degree making up the rest of the cohort. The vast majority of students were aged between 18 and 24 (94%), 4% of students were aged 25-34 and 2% were aged over 35.

In 2008, the student intake increased to approximately 120 students, including 5 international students.


Number of Places


Altogether 100-120 places will be offered.
· ~95 places will be Commonwealth-Supported Places (CSP)
· ~5-10 places will be Full-Fee paying (FFP) places
· In 2008, ~15 places will be offered for International Students
· Graduate CSP will make up ~25% of overall 95 places
· Graduate FFP places will make up ~25 of the overall 5-10 places
· Graduate International places will make up ~25% of the overall 15 places

Indigenous Students

The inaugural cohort contained 5 indigenous students. UWS recognises the need for a greater representation of indigenous students within the medical profession and is committed to maintaining indigenous representation. Indigenous applicants are assessed on a case-by-case basis with key determinants being desire to study medicine and perceived ability to handle the academic stress of a medicine course, as judged by the Dean and other UWS academics

Course Structure

The UWS Medical degree is five years in duration. In the first two years the course is built around PBL and the final three years are based in community and hospital settings within the GWS community.

In keeping with general trends across most medical schools of Australia, the course aims to integrate all aspects of the curriculum and actively encourage the practice of self-directed learning. As such, the basic sciences, clinical context and professional practice behind cases are brought together in a staged fashion to add relevance to student learning

Year 1 and 2


In the first two years the course structure is built around a weekly PBL case with lectures and practicals supporting the case content. The PBL case is introduced on the Monday with students developing learning issues that are further complemented by lectures and practicals. Students are presented initially with a ‘trigger’ and later a ‘history’ and ‘clinical examination results’, as they progress through the 2 hour tutorial. On the Friday, learning issues are presented in the PBL tutorials and aspects of the case are discussed. Investigation results may be presented and the tutorial concludes with a final clinical impression and closure. The UWS PBL system is explained in detail in this thread.

The course content is divided into two streams; Scientific Basis of Medicine (SBM) and Health Practice (HP). The SBM unit is designed to provide students with an understanding of the principles behind body function and, later, a more in-depth look at each of the body systems, in turn. There are approximately 5 SBM lectures each week however this ranges from 1-8 depending on the week’s specific timetable. There is a computer or lab practical most weeks where attendance is compulsory. SBM content is generally built around the topics to be covered in each week’s PBL.

HP is designed to complement the PBL case and introduce aspects of professional practice relevant to the case. Evidence Based Medicine (EBM) was initially introduced as a part of HP but is expected to take on a more independent and structured role for the new first year class.

Year 3


In Year 3 Students will rotate between medicine, surgical and medicine in context attachments.

Medical and surgical attachments will be delivered within hospitals and will require students to become a part of the hospital ward team. This will include attendance at ward rounds and outpatient clinics as well as self-directed learning of clinical skills. Medicine in context will involve two six-week attachments each having a specific focus on a particular greater western sydney health concern; examples of these include: aged care, alcohol and drugs, children and youth, disability, housing and new communities, mental health, migrant health, public health, and women's health. These attachments will also include 1-2 days in a general practice setting.

During conference weeks all students (regardless of current rotation) will return to campbelltown campus for a week-long series of lectures and workshops. These weeks will ensure consistency of teaching and provide a method for teaching subject that would otherwise be difficult in a clinical setting (e.g. ENT, ophthalmology, dermatology etc).

Throughout the rest of years 3 to 5 online computer-based scientific streams will be conducted for students to work through at home, while they are partaking in associated clinical attachments. Each stream will take approximately 25 hours to complete and will aim to link together basic sciences, clinical medicine, and also population health.

As well as MCQ and SAQ exams, the scientific streams, and Mini-CEX, an EBM project will also be a part of the assessment during year 3.


Years 4 and 5


coming soon

Entry procedure


1. Applicants should lodge an application for selection to the School of Medicine, University of Western Sydney by the 30 September 2008. School leavers will need to submit a UAI prediction form as well as a registration form.

Note: GWS applicants should also lodge a Statutory declaration to ensure eligibility

2. Applicants should register with ACER (www.acer.edu.au) to sit the Undergraduate Medicine and Health Sciences Admission Test (UMAT) by 6 June 2008

3. Applicants will need to sit the UMAT at the nominated test site on 30 July 2008

4. Those who receive an invitation will be required to attend an interview in early December

5. Applicants successful in gaining entry to the course will be notified by UAC
Greater Western Sydney(GWS) students eligible for GWS entry will need to fill an additional declaration of GWS residency, certified by a Justice of the Peace by the 30 September 2008.

Important dates


· Applications to the School of Medicine, University of Western Sydney, are too be lodged by 30 September 2008. Please note late applications will not be accepted.
· Applicants will need to register to sit the UMAT with ACER (www.acer.edu.au) by 6 June 2008. Late applications will be accepted until 5pm AEST 15 July 2007 and a late fee will apply
· Applicants will need to sit the UMAT at the nominated test site on 30 July 2008
· Invitations for interviews will be released around November, 2008.
· The interviews will be conducted in early December. Please note a few interviews will be offered in early January for applicants whose predicted UAI was below the threshold but whose actual UAI was above the threshold required for consideration


Alternative entry



Advanced Science- First year interview offer

"If you meet the UAI requirements for Medicine but your application to study Medicine is unsuccessful, you will receive a guaranteed offer into the Bachelor of Science (Advanced). Each year up to six interview places for admission to the MBBS will be reserved for students in Year 1 of the Advanced Science program who meet specified criteria."

2009 Interview requirements (subject to change):



Please see the UWS Medicine 2009 prospectus for more details or contact or Ms. Penny Lee (School of Medicine, Admin Officer) on: p.lee@uws.edu.au


Prerequisites


There are no formal prerequisites required for study however HSC level Chemistry and Biology are assumed knowledge

UAI and GPA

Students applying for entry in 2008 were required to achieve a minimum UAI threshold of 95.00 for non-GWS applicants or 93.00 for GWS applicants. The final ranks of applicants are not based on UAI; a student’s UAI plays no further role in admissions other than to differentiate between those who achieved the minimum UAI required and those who didn’t.

In 2007 the median UAI was about 98. There were 43% of students scoring between 98 and 100, 37% scoring between 95 and 97, and 20% scoring between 93 and 94. In 2008, the median UAI was about 99, please note that UAI is merely a hurdle at UWS and, provided a score over 95 (or 93 GWS applicants), is attained, there is no further consideration of UAI.

For those students who have undertaken one or more years of tertiary (university) study, but not completed their degree, students must have attained either a UAI of 95 (93 for GWS applicants) or a GPA of 5.5. It is not necessary to fulfil both of these requirements.

For graduate students, a GPA of 5.5 or above must have been attained in their bachelor degree (if their undergraduate degree is combined both degrees are included).

For more information please see the MBBS Entry Requirements (pdf)


UMAT

The UMAT is worth 33.3% of applicant’s final rank and is used to decide which applicants will be invited for an interview. A formula (unknown) is applied to the raw UMAT score for each of the three sections in order to calculate a final score. In 2007 successful applicants were in the top 10% of all students who took the UMAT. A non-GWS applicant required a UMAT raw score of 183 to be offered an interview while a GWS applicant required a raw score of 164.

It is believed that in 2008 the UMAT raw score required to gain an interview offer is slightly higher than that of 2007.
Interview

Applicants who achieve the required minimum UAI score and UMAT raw score are invited to attend an interview. There are about 400 people interviewed for a total of about 115 places. The interview is worth 66.6% of the applicants final rank.

The interview system used is the Multi-station Mini Interview (MMI). This involves a series of stations that are intended to assess a variety of desirable skills such as empathy, communication, stress and coping skills, teamwork etc as well as traditional queries about motivation to study medicine and background. This style of interview is favoured because of its ability to dilute the chances of interviewer/situational bias.

In 2008, there were 8 different stations with 8 different interviewers. It is thought that this will reduce the impact of ‘easy’ or ‘hard’ interviewers.
 

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haha i've been doing 3 hours of trig. i'll read it in the morning. thanks though :)

EDIT: UAI and GPA

Students applying for entry in 2008 were required to achieve a minimum UAI threshold of 95.00 for non-GWS applicants or 93.00 for GWS applicants. The final ranks of applicants are not based on UAI; a student’s UAI plays no further role in admissions other than to differentiate between those who achieved the minimum UAI required and those who didn’t.

In 2007 the median UAI was about 98. There were 43% of students scoring between 98 and 100, 37% scoring between 95 and 97, and 20% scoring between 93 and 94. In 2008, the median UAI was about 99, please note that UAI is merely a hurdle at UWS and, provided a score over 95 (or 93 GWS applicants), is attained, there is no further consideration of UAI.

For those students who have undertaken one or more years of tertiary (university) study, but not completed their degree, students must have attained either a UAI of 95 (93 for GWS applicants) or a GPA of 5.5. It is not necessary to fulfil both of these requirements.

...is really all I needed.
wow, it's amusing how misinformed people are -_- (including myself!)
ta!
 
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I can understand why they are trying to encourage people from GWS into the courses. These people live in the area and are more likely to keep their skills and training in the area and not take it back to their won suburbs where there may not be such a big need for doctors.

Certainly a doctor needs to be intelligent but intelligence does not equal good doctor. There is more to doctoring that intelligence and that is people skills, understanding the people you are helping and their backgrounds and being available.

This is why they are trying to encourage more indigenous people to become teachers because:
1. They live in indigenous areas
2. They understand indigienous children and their families
3. They share the culture
4. The children better relate to them

Same with doctors.

Therefore, don't worry so much about the UAI. Do what you find enjoyable, enjoy the ride to the HSC, do your best and then assess what you can can't do. And remember, there are ALWAYS other ways into the courses you want to do. Maybe you can't get in straight away. Be patient and bide your time (and remind your parents of the same thing!).
 

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haha i've been doing 3 hours of trig. i'll read it in the morning. thanks though :)

EDIT: UAI and GPA

Students applying for entry in 2008 were required to achieve a minimum UAI threshold of 95.00 for non-GWS applicants or 93.00 for GWS applicants. The final ranks of applicants are not based on UAI; a student’s UAI plays no further role in admissions other than to differentiate between those who achieved the minimum UAI required and those who didn’t.

In 2007 the median UAI was about 98. There were 43% of students scoring between 98 and 100, 37% scoring between 95 and 97, and 20% scoring between 93 and 94. In 2008, the median UAI was about 99, please note that UAI is merely a hurdle at UWS and, provided a score over 95 (or 93 GWS applicants), is attained, there is no further consideration of UAI.

For those students who have undertaken one or more years of tertiary (university) study, but not completed their degree, students must have attained either a UAI of 95 (93 for GWS applicants) or a GPA of 5.5. It is not necessary to fulfil both of these requirements.

...is really all I needed.
wow, it's amusing how misinformed people are -_- (including myself!)
ta!

The shit thing about it is that whether or not you get an interview relies all upon your umat score. I am not sure if u have sat the umat before but it is one fucked up test !

I think unsw have one of the better selection procedures with 1/3 uai 1/3umat 1/3 interview but it disadvantages non-standard students dramatically.
 

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i get 9 whiplashes to the back and smacked with the broomstick again to try and soak up the blood
 

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My UAI: 41.90 (not great at all, I cried)
My mum's reaction: You stupid idiot you failed, what the hell is wrong with you, you bitch.
My reaction: Thanks... *Tears begin to flow*
Boyfriend: It's ok sweetie, you'll find other ways of getting to uni, I'm proud of you for trying.
Boyfriend's mum: I'm here if you need to talk about anything, I feel bad for you but well done for having a go.

I really hate my mum...
I almost cried after reading that... i dont think i have EVER felt as sorry for a person...
 

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I am so scared. This will be me in one year's time.
I've been studying and studying, but it feels empty, as if I haven't picked up a book!
 

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