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Hey guys, for all you wanna be lawyers I have some info about law at UWS...Its scanned a bit dodgy because my scanner is crap and the paper its on is shiny but you can have a lil look and if you want some info...just request it from UWS and they will send it to you :)

UWS Stuff
About Combined Studies
Combined Law Study Program
Law Alternative Units List
Criminology Info
UWS law Info
Maquarie Stuff (Thanks Huratio)
UOW Stuff - Thanks WW

About Combined Studies
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Combined Law Study Program
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Law Alternative Units List
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Criminology Info
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UWS Links
B Laws/ B Social Science
B Laws/ B Arts
All business & Law Degrees

Maquarie Uni Law Info
http://www.handbook.mq.edu.au/areaofstudy.php?edition=2005&id=20894

UOW Stuff
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UOW - Faculty of Law
http://www.uow.edu.au/law/

About the UOW Faculty of Law
The Faculty of Law at the University of Wollongong was established in 1990. Professor John Goldring, then a member of the Australian Law Reform Commission and formerly Professor and Head of the School of Law at Macquarie University, was appointed as Foundation Dean. He was succeeded as Dean by Professor Helen Gamble in 1995 and by Associate Professor Robin Handley in October 1999. Professor Stuart Kaye is the current Dean of the Faculty.

The Faculty has attracted highly qualified staff from Universities in Australia and overseas and from the practice of law. It has Centres for Natural Resources Law and Policy, Maritime Policy and the Centre for Transnational Crime Prevention in which a number of specialist courses and subjects have been developed. The Faculty has also established a reputation for innovative research.

A range of postgraduate programs are offered by the Faculty including Masters and Doctorates by research and a coursework LLM (International and Comparative) for international students.

The undergraduate law degree courses leading to the LLB and the sequence of subjects in Legal Studies seek to develop the capacity of students to learn on their own. This is consistent with the University's emphasis on teaching as the creation of an environment which assists learning. Students who study law at Wollongong will learn law, rather than be taught law. This may not always be easy - nor may it be what students expect.

Students at Wollongong in the law and legal studies courses, both during their undergraduate and postgraduate degrees, will benefit from recent advances in legal education in Australia and elsewhere which have influenced the design of the courses and their component subjects. They will enjoy a friendly atmosphere which can only exist in a Faculty which emphasises the study of law as a shared activity of students and staff.

The Faculty also has a Legal Practice Unit which is open both to Wollongong students and those from other institutions. A Graduate Diploma in Legal Practice is awarded to students who successfully complete the Practical Legal Training (PLT) course which is accredited by the Legal Practitioners' Admission Board as a qualification for law graduates who wish to apply for admission as a legal practitioner in New South Wales.

The Faculty of Law continually engages in an ongoing process of self examination, aiming to enhance learning opportunities by providing students with access to various other legal institutions and advanced learning systems. An aspect of this is access to a wide range of computing services. For instance the Faculty is pleased that staff and students are able to take advantage of wide-ranging World Wide Web contacts such as those appearing under the heading "Links for Students" on the Current Student Information page.

Courses Available for Prospective Students
Try the CourseFinder available here:
http://www.uow.edu.au/prospective/

Cutoffs for 2005
These were generally about 91.00, but exact cutoffs for particular degrees can be found here.
http://www.uow.edu.au/prospective/downloads/prospectus/uow-uai-2005.pdf

Undergraduate Law Brochure
http://www.uow.edu.au/prospective/downloads/ugrad/06UgLaw.pdf

2005 Law Handbook
http://www.uow.edu.au/law/lawhandbook2005.pdf

Law Students Society
http://www.uow.edu.au/law/lss.html

Bonus 3 UAI Points Scheme
Does it apply to me?
If you have a UOW course as a preference and you completed your HSC this year at one of the schools in our regional area your admissions rank will automatically be increased by three points on the UAC system for University of Wollongong entry only.

The following list outlines which schools are eligible for the regional bonus three points:

Albion Park High School, Albion Park
Aquinas College, Menai
Batemans Bay High School, Batehaven
Bega High School, Bega
Bega Valley Christian College, Bega
Bomaderry High School, Bomaderry
Bowral High School, Bowral
Budawang School for Specific Purposes, Ulladulla
Bulli High School, Woonona
Caringbah High School, Caringbah
Carroll College, Broulee
Cedars Christian College, Unanderra
Chevalier College, Bowral
Corrimal High School, Corrimal East
Cronulla High School, Cronulla
Dapto High School, Dapto
De La Salle College, Cronulla
Eden Marine Technology High School, Eden
Edmund Rice College, Wollongong
Endeavour Sports High School, Caringbah
Engadine High School, Engadine
Figtree High School, Figtree
Frensham School, Mittagong
Gymea Technology High School, Gymea
Havenlee School for Specific Purposes, North Nowra
Heathcote High School, Heathcote
Holy Spirit College, Bellambi
Illawarra Christian School - Cordeaux Campus, Unanderra
Illawarra Christian School - Tongarra Campus, Calderwood
Illawarra Senior College, Port Kembla
Illawarra Sports High School, Berkeley
Inaburra School, Bangor
Kanahooka High School, Dapto
Keira Technology High School, Fairy Meadow
Kiama High School, Kiama
Kirrawee High School, Kirrawee
Lake Illawarra High School, Lake Illawarra
Lucas Heights Community School, Menai Central
Menai High School, Alfords Point
Minerva School for Special Purposes, Sutherland
Moruya High School, Moruya
Moss Vale High School, Moss Vale
Narooma High School, Narooma
Nowra Christian Community School, Nowra
Nowra Technology High School, Nowra
Oak Flats High School, Oak Flats
Oxley College, Bowral
Para Meadows School for Specific Purposes, North Wollongong
Peterborough School for Special Purposes, Peterborough
Picton High School, Picton
Port Hacking High School, Miranda
Shoalhaven Anglican School, Milton
Shoalhaven High School, Nowra East
Smith's Hill High School, Wollongong
Sutherland TAFE, Loftus
Southern Highlands Christian School
St John Bosco College, Engadine
St John the Evangelist High School, Nowra
St Joseph's Catholic High School, Albion Park
St Mary Star of the Sea College, Wollongong
St Patrick's College, Sutherland
St Paul’s International College, Moss Vale
Sutherland Shire Christian School, Sutherland
Sylvania High School, Sylvania
Tangara School for Special Purposes, Mittagong
The Illawarra Grammar School, Figtree
The Jannali High School, Jannali
Ulladulla High School, Ulladulla
Vincentia High School, Vincentia
Warilla High School, Barrack Heights
Warrawong High School, Warrawong
Wollongong High School of the Performing Arts, Fairy Meadow
Wollongong TAFE
Woolooware High School, Woolooware
Woonona High School, Woonona
 
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Thanks Melsc :)
Interesting read!
Thanks for scanning it up 4 us "wannabe lawyers"
 

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Oh wow! I did one of those crimonology units this semester. It sucked big time.

For future reference, DO NOT choose urban geography or geography of regional development :)

And since you guys are so excited about law, you should have a look at the handbook, at the subjects that you can do. Although, knowing you two, you already have :rolleyes:

Handbook

Edit: Melsc, I know where you stole that from :p
 
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No cape, havent seen that yet but looking at it now...
but im interested in doing:
Law
http://handbook.uws.edu.au/hbook/course.asp?course=2501.1

Bachelor of Business (Accounting)/Bachelor of Laws
http://handbook.uws.edu.au/hbook/course.asp?course=2517.1

Bachelor of Business (Management)/Bachelor of Laws
http://handbook.uws.edu.au/hbook/course.asp?course=2522.1

Bachelor of Business (Marketing)/Bachelor of Laws
http://handbook.uws.edu.au/hbook/course.asp?course=2523.1

Bachelor of Laws (Combined Studies - Business)
http://handbook.uws.edu.au/hbook/course.asp?course=2572.1
 

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goan_crazy said:
Thanks Melsc :)
Interesting read!
Thanks for scanning it up 4 us "wannabe lawyers"
No probs :) us wanna be lawyers stick 2gether :D

miss_gtr said:
anyone looked into doing law at Notre Dame?
I have but they have no UAI cut-off so you have no idea what its gonna be :)

Cape said:
Edit: Melsc, I know where you stole that from :p
I stole what????
 

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miss_gtr said:
anyone looked into doing law at Notre Dame?

I was looking into that. As Melsc quite rightly pointed out there is no UAI cut off for it. I would imagine it would be in the 90s perhaps. It will be relatively young in Sydney, although it does have a good programme in other states.
 

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Jonathan A said:
I was looking into that. As Melsc quite rightly pointed out there is no UAI cut off for it. I would imagine it would be in the 90s perhaps. It will be relatively young in Sydney, although it does have a good programme in other states.
Thats what I thought... Hey Jono where have u been lately...exams???
 

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miss_gtr said:
what about studying legal studies, then transfering to law?
You can do another discipline (course) that the uni offers and then transfer into law after a semester or a year. If you want to do a combined law degree, but you don't make it, do the other degree, and you can gain exemptions from doing those subjects again, when you transfer.
 

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you can also do graduate law after your first course as well.
 

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Without Wings said:
what about all the other universities?!
I dont expect to get it :D but when I get some info from them I'll add it

ms gtr.. I am probably do criminology fro 6 months then transfer...if u maintain a credit transfer, you can transfer into law
 

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Huratio said:
you can also do graduate law after your first course as well.

I don't really recommend it. My reason:

When you do combined law, you do only 2 law subjects and 2 subjects from another discipline. That means if your 'stuff up' the law component, its only two. However a graduate student starts off with 4 law subjects. If you stuff the law compenant you stuff up 4 subjects out of 24 (or out of the 16 compulsory). It means in the long run does affect ability to get honours. Advantage of graduate though is that you are more well-prepared for law and study in general and are a little more mature. This is just my thought, there are some excellent graduate law students out there.

But I will say something in relation to what the LPAB think. The LPAB usually will not let students do more than 2 subjects a semester in the Diploma in Law course. Reason is that students will generally have difficulties doing more than two. It isn't till third year that the Board allows you to do three.
 

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melsc said:
I'd swap ur law exams for my hsc anyday :) I thought ur were MIA

I would swap after the exam i saw today. I had a statutory interpretation question that involved international law, it's unheard of!
 

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Jonathan A said:
I don't really recommend it. My reason:

When you do combined law, you do only 2 law subjects and 2 subjects from another discipline. That means if your 'stuff up' the law component, its only two. However a graduate student starts off with 4 law subjects. If you stuff the law compenant you stuff up 4 subjects out of 24 (or out of the 16 compulsory). It means in the long run does affect ability to get honours. Advantage of graduate though is that you are more well-prepared for law and study in general and are a little more mature. This is just my thought, there are some excellent graduate law students out there.

But I will say something in relation to what the LPAB think. The LPAB usually will not let students do more than 2 subjects a semester in the Diploma in Law course. Reason is that students will generally have difficulties doing more than two. It isn't till third year that the Board allows you to do three.
Isnt that why they make you do combined law in the first place? Grad law is my last last option...I dont think i'll wanna study another degree first I'll end up hating it
 

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Jonathan A said:
I would swap after the exam i saw today. I had a statutory interpretation question that involved international law, it's unheard of!
That is evil!!! Did you get to say pactus sunt servanda...or jus cogens??? No worries...you know ur stuff I bet u nailed it :uhhuh:
 

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melsc said:
Isnt that why they make you do combined law in the first place? Grad law is my last last option...I dont think i'll wanna study another degree first I'll end up hating it

It is often said that combined law is because we are being taught by academics, no longer are part time lawyer teaching law students. This means we are learning to be more critical. An example: the LPAB examinations will have questions with problems and ask us to solve those problems according to statute/precedent. However, in my torts exam I will be asked a problem question and a question dealing with the fairness of torts system. This means I will need to talk about political aspects of the system - something lawyers rarely do.

Teaching of Arts, Social Science and Business is partly because there is a push for law students to question society, not merely read a law book. Personally I opt for the traditional legal approach.
 

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