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When you choose GUI based, there is several issues that could arrise. One from experience, is "spyware" from one of the GUI based programs. When you use command based, there is nothing to worry about because no one has control of what you are doing other than you.
 

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Yeah, plus the command line ones tend to be alot more stable as well, especially when your using dialup..
 

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Originally posted by Jeo
When you choose GUI based, there is several issues that could arrise. One from experience, is "spyware" from one of the GUI based programs. When you use command based, there is nothing to worry about because no one has control of what you are doing other than you.

That's not true, practically whatever you do in a program is command based, i hope you understand when you click on a file or execute a file all it is is sending a command as well, but it just a WIMP medium for you to use, rather than having to remember the commands off by heart.
 

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errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!

obviously you do not understand.

nevermind

pffffffffft

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Originally posted by Jeo
When you choose GUI based, there is several issues that could arrise. One from experience, is "spyware" from one of the GUI based programs. When you use command based, there is nothing to worry about because no one has control of what you are doing other than you.
This has absolutely positively nothing to do with the user interface. You're just associating GUI with lesser security/privacy because there are more GUI apps, GUI apps are more likely to be oriented towards first-time users, and some unscrupulous programmers know that first-time users have no idea about computers in general and make spyware accompany the program.

But this is just as easily done with command-based programs. The only issue is that nearly everyone who uses command-based programs are in the know, and won't put up with crappy software bundled with spyware.

If programmed correctly (and this is where object-oriented programming techniques come in handy), you can have the entire program logic seperated from the interface - ie. you could have a GUI and text based version of the same program.

You might know this already Jeo, but from what you posted you are trying to link graphical-interface software to spyware.. I find it very illogical.
 

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I think Jeo should be retrenched of his position of software engineer of :apig: :p

We have a new winner Yoshi!! :D
 

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Originally posted by yoshi
This has absolutely positively nothing to do with the user interface. You're just associating GUI with lesser security/privacy because there are more GUI apps, GUI apps are more likely to be oriented towards first-time users, and some unscrupulous programmers know that first-time users have no idea about computers in general and make spyware accompany the program.

But this is just as easily done with command-based programs. The only issue is that nearly everyone who uses command-based programs are in the know, and won't put up with crappy software bundled with spyware.

If programmed correctly (and this is where object-oriented programming techniques come in handy), you can have the entire program logic seperated from the interface - ie. you could have a GUI and text based version of the same program.

You might know this already Jeo, but from what you posted you are trying to link graphical-interface software to spyware.. I find it very illogical.
do you know, when you use a serial or w/e for cuteftp that more than 100 people use, Cute FTP spies on you. There is absolutely no way you know this, unless you have filters to see exactly what is going through. Why cant the average user know this? Because it is an internet program.

Now, back to command based with spyware. When I say command based, the safest on windows atleast, is just the inbuilt FTP. NOT through explorer shell. Because explorer is the killer, saving passwords, and all sorts of crap. the built in FTP, i.e cmd>ftp is very safe. It does only what you tell it to do, and you have COMPLETE control over whatever it does. In explorer, I bet there are hundreds of things its doing, that you dont know. But look, what program does explorer use to access FTP? the same command based FTP program. I dunno, maybe im confusing myself, HSC stress :angry:
 

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Originally posted by Jeo
There is absolutely no way you know this, unless you have filters to see exactly what is going through. Why cant the average user know this? Because it is an internet program.
I understand what you're saying, but a command-based program can do exactly the same thing without letting the user know. Cuteftp probably doesn't advertise it's sending info back to the company/marketers, the only way you might find out is through checking where packets are heading at the time cuteftp is loaded. A non-GUI program can do the same thing just as easily.

Originally posted by Jeo
It does only what you tell it to do, and you have COMPLETE control over whatever it does. In explorer, I bet there are hundreds of things its doing, that you dont know.
It does do stupid things, like open a new FTP connection to a server when it opens a new window (even if it's on the same server). I agree with you on this point, but really, command based is just as capable of doing stupid stuff like that - the difference is that it is aimed for the technical user, so it lets the user tell it exactly what to do.

The point I'm trying to get across is that there is essentially no difference in behaviour between text and graphical based programs. Really, the only difference is just that, the graphics.

(edit) This has gone quite a bit off-topic now, so I won't post any more ;)
 

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I understand what you are saying. Im stressed out, so we will leave it at that.
 

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So anyway, Winston sent me the program for FTP

All is now well
 

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