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Help! Is it possible to get a nice job if i graduate from ANU (1 Viewer)
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why dun ppl, just work their butts off in uni
and aim for distinction average when they graduate..that will get u a nice job for sure(no matter what uni you went to) and forget about which uni is more leet than others
and aim for distinction average when they graduate..that will get u a nice job for sure(no matter what uni you went to) and forget about which uni is more leet than others
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but having said that..
getting a D average is no doubt one of the hardest thing to achieve (in any given uni)
so if one manages to achieved, that he/she definately deserves a good job when he/she graduates..
my dad, being a manager for the logistic part for Hk's old airport, told me that getting a degree from which uni is not really relevant(unless you are talking about some jobs like law, medicine or science[after the bachelor level])
cos he hired people that graduated from history/biology in a dodgy uni to do computing, and surprise, they turned out to be awesome workers
if someone manages to graudate from harvard, but can not show that they have the ability to work in the world or that they are a cock head, their 1337degree will be meaningless
besides, look at Malaysian_Pleasure, he is going to UWS(a uni which you[you know who you are] bags out like its a piece of toilet paper that has been wiped on a dog's arse) but yet, he is working as an auditor already...
getting a D average is no doubt one of the hardest thing to achieve (in any given uni)
so if one manages to achieved, that he/she definately deserves a good job when he/she graduates..
my dad, being a manager for the logistic part for Hk's old airport, told me that getting a degree from which uni is not really relevant(unless you are talking about some jobs like law, medicine or science[after the bachelor level])
cos he hired people that graduated from history/biology in a dodgy uni to do computing, and surprise, they turned out to be awesome workers
if someone manages to graudate from harvard, but can not show that they have the ability to work in the world or that they are a cock head, their 1337degree will be meaningless
besides, look at Malaysian_Pleasure, he is going to UWS(a uni which you[you know who you are] bags out like its a piece of toilet paper that has been wiped on a dog's arse) but yet, he is working as an auditor already...
I wish that were the case, for Commerce degrees anyway natstar..natstar said:
If you want the good jobs in respected firms that pay well, everything matters..
I was talking to my friend and commerce society president last night and he got a graduate job at KPMG..he said there are literally 2000 or so graduates from all diff. uni's that apply for about 30 or so spots - its very competitive and the standard of graduates is very high, so unfortunately, employers will look at where you went to uni and its reputation. It's not very important, but students should be aware of this fact when choosing the uni they study at
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but minai, its also about playing smart
of course, if u come graduate from UNSW or USYD, then no doubt u r a step of others who is studying somewhere else
ppl who wants a nice job, but want to have that extra edge should get some working experience. i mean, don;t go for those big4 companies as soon as you graduate, work for some small firms, get work experience, then go for the so called "big4"
that way, you are a step ahead of the pack
of course, if u come graduate from UNSW or USYD, then no doubt u r a step of others who is studying somewhere else
ppl who wants a nice job, but want to have that extra edge should get some working experience. i mean, don;t go for those big4 companies as soon as you graduate, work for some small firms, get work experience, then go for the so called "big4"
that way, you are a step ahead of the pack
if u were referring to me bagging out uws i wasnt.... i wouldnt.... but u have to realise that its not even the same postcode as macquarie or uts, let alone unsw and usyd... then u have anu competing as well... uws is pretty low people, its for a reason... not cuz everyones stupid... seriously....
and if u want proof im not gonna outline it for u, if u look at the subjects that unsw offers for accounting and compare them with even those at anu, then ull see the difference for urself... personally i dunt know anything about marketing, if u get work experience that will put u ahead....
noones saying that uws graduates dunt get a job.... thats just ur insecurity.... cuz u urself know that uws isnt as good as the others... but ur pride... che che... if u go past ur arrogance and look at the initial question being asked it was can u get nice jobs, nice jobs in the sense high profile jobs.... if u do an accounting course and u get a job as an auditor, then u havnt achieved something great lol... thats automatic.. if u do a finance course and get a job as a business analyst, uve done something great... the better unis allow that.. u can do an arts degree with a few subjects in business and get a great job in the large banks.... i saw it in the usyd graduate destination book... poeple majored accounting with weird weird things and they landed awesome jobs....
u cant do this at uws... or probably even uts.. only sydney and unsw...
i mean natstar its great that u got work experience, hopefully u get a job with them as a graduate, but, if u want a really high profile job, or even a medium profile job.. u have to standout... and the only differentiating factor as people have said is ur university... everyone has a decent personality, those with good marks are perfectly aware of what is required in the workforce, and hence delveop themselves... so uws has really very little chance... depends on how ambitiious uare, obviously we are talking on different levels... i think a nice job is macquarie bank, where as u want to be an auditor... so i think thats the main problem with this argument...
and if u want proof im not gonna outline it for u, if u look at the subjects that unsw offers for accounting and compare them with even those at anu, then ull see the difference for urself... personally i dunt know anything about marketing, if u get work experience that will put u ahead....
noones saying that uws graduates dunt get a job.... thats just ur insecurity.... cuz u urself know that uws isnt as good as the others... but ur pride... che che... if u go past ur arrogance and look at the initial question being asked it was can u get nice jobs, nice jobs in the sense high profile jobs.... if u do an accounting course and u get a job as an auditor, then u havnt achieved something great lol... thats automatic.. if u do a finance course and get a job as a business analyst, uve done something great... the better unis allow that.. u can do an arts degree with a few subjects in business and get a great job in the large banks.... i saw it in the usyd graduate destination book... poeple majored accounting with weird weird things and they landed awesome jobs....
u cant do this at uws... or probably even uts.. only sydney and unsw...
i mean natstar its great that u got work experience, hopefully u get a job with them as a graduate, but, if u want a really high profile job, or even a medium profile job.. u have to standout... and the only differentiating factor as people have said is ur university... everyone has a decent personality, those with good marks are perfectly aware of what is required in the workforce, and hence delveop themselves... so uws has really very little chance... depends on how ambitiious uare, obviously we are talking on different levels... i think a nice job is macquarie bank, where as u want to be an auditor... so i think thats the main problem with this argument...
look im really sorry to have distressed u, im sure ur a great personality *cough*, but the thing thats fuelling me is that fact that ur so narrow minded, uve imprinted into urself that uws is the best.... and then wats the point of doing marketing if u cant land urself a role that has u working hard on BIG projects... u dunt wanna help out small companies market, u wanna be wokring on tncs... like the microsoft xbox campaign, how mad was that... thats what my impression of a nice job is...
and ur references to salaries, i dunt recall saying anything about salaries.. thats ur insecurity talking....
and what kind of loser would do marketing if they didnt have a good personality.. honoestly :|
its bugging me that ive hurt u, if i have im really sorry.... its just that i hate when people pride their thing because its theirs... just out of curioisity wat uai get?
and ur references to salaries, i dunt recall saying anything about salaries.. thats ur insecurity talking....
and what kind of loser would do marketing if they didnt have a good personality.. honoestly :|
its bugging me that ive hurt u, if i have im really sorry.... its just that i hate when people pride their thing because its theirs... just out of curioisity wat uai get?
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If you're doing a mainstream degree like business, commerce, law, science or engineering (with a mainstream major e.g. physics, electrical eng) then students at larger unis do have an advantage when they graduate. However, if you're into a specialised degree, then you should research the program at each uni which offers it and not just go by general reputation of the uni as a whole.
For example, I know that the nanotechnology programs at UTS and UWS is superior to those at USYD and UNSW.
For example, I know that the nanotechnology programs at UTS and UWS is superior to those at USYD and UNSW.
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i thought that natstar's post wasn't saying how she thinks uws is the best uni ever, i think she's simply defending the uni because she's sick of people constantly bagging it out. maybe you weren't bagging it out, but i know from experience that when someone says something which could be a slur on the uni you attend, you're quick to jump in and defend it (for the most part).
how about for acturial studies exemptions... is it possible (i.e. if u take the right units etc to get exemptions from these? i.e. do double degree or honours yr for part 11 but part 1 is all about subjects and performance in them? correcto ?
and also, would a person graduating from anu with act studies or finance/law have a good hcanc of makign into a large bank or even an investment bank?
and also, would a person graduating from anu with act studies or finance/law have a good hcanc of makign into a large bank or even an investment bank?
All I can say is don’t be to focused on 'what job you will get after uni' that’s not the important thing. It’s how you plan to grow and develop as an individual during university thats important.
I was talking to a manager at Delotti and his view of a bachelor degree was simply 'a ticket to play' and to prove that you have reached 'a certain standard', you only use about 10% of what you learn in university.
Now, some tickets are more attractive due to there reputation, take universities like UNSW,USYD,UTS or MAQ entry is usually a UAI of 90-95+ for business , so already you have shown that you are in the top 10% of students. You university marks would emphasis this more. People simply perceive by association that you are at a good standard.
If you want to stand out, do extra curricular activities, show that you can do more than just get a D average. You can play sports, an instrument or take an interest in the community or your profession. Employers choosing for competitive positions are looking for well rounded individuals with the capacity to learn new things and excel in new environments. Not someone who only get marks because they stay home and study all day long and rote learn solutions to exams.
After all, if you look at the BRW young rich, only about 10% actually have uni degrees. All the young rich have gone out there and done something. Now being an entrepreneur is not everyone's thing, it’s a risky way to achieve your goals but with high returns. A uni degree is just a safer option.
I was talking to a manager at Delotti and his view of a bachelor degree was simply 'a ticket to play' and to prove that you have reached 'a certain standard', you only use about 10% of what you learn in university.
Now, some tickets are more attractive due to there reputation, take universities like UNSW,USYD,UTS or MAQ entry is usually a UAI of 90-95+ for business , so already you have shown that you are in the top 10% of students. You university marks would emphasis this more. People simply perceive by association that you are at a good standard.
If you want to stand out, do extra curricular activities, show that you can do more than just get a D average. You can play sports, an instrument or take an interest in the community or your profession. Employers choosing for competitive positions are looking for well rounded individuals with the capacity to learn new things and excel in new environments. Not someone who only get marks because they stay home and study all day long and rote learn solutions to exams.
After all, if you look at the BRW young rich, only about 10% actually have uni degrees. All the young rich have gone out there and done something. Now being an entrepreneur is not everyone's thing, it’s a risky way to achieve your goals but with high returns. A uni degree is just a safer option.
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