If you can get rank 1 , there a point going all out? (1 Viewer)

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^so which marks are meant to change... school or hsc?, shouldn't Y get 91 since he/she came first in hsc... oh and do schools recieve raw marks
 
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dp624 said:
Y gets 92 external and ~90 internal
X gets 71 external and 92 internal
whatever you get for the externals, you keep
internal marks depends on the ranks

student X
internal-92---gets the best hsc mark since he's 1st
external-71---same

student Y
internal-71---gets 2nd best hsc mark since he's 2nd
external-92---same

but in the end they both get the same final mark lol
 
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dp624 said:
Y gets 92 external and ~90 internal
X gets 71 external and 92 internal
Dragonmaster262 said:
How does Y get 90? Shouldn't he get 71?
Y gets 90 because the moderating process takes into account the relative differences between students in addition to the rank order. The procedure for classes of two students also differs slightly to the general procedure.

As there is a difference of only two marks between the raw internal scores but a difference of 21 marks between the external scores, the minimum external score is deemed to be too low to stand as a moderated mark.

In these circumstances the moderated mark is calculated as follows:

moderated mark = ( lowest internal / highest internal ) * highest external

You can see that the effect of this is to ensure that the ratio of minimum to maximum marks is maintained between the internal and external assessments.

Of course, if Y's external performance had not been so low and Y had performed at a level warranting a higher moderated mark, that higher mark would have been used instead.
 

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Deltan said:
whatever you get for the externals, you keep
internal marks depends on the ranks

student X
internal-92---gets the best hsc mark since he's 1st
external-71---same

student Y
internal-71---gets 2nd best hsc mark since he's 2nd
external-92---same

but in the end they both get the same final mark lol
It's not as simple as that in reality. They take into account of the difference in internal marks, not just ranks.

For example, this is the real example:

A = 97 at school 1st
B = 96 at school 2nd

HSC

A = 100 in HSC
B = 96 in HSC.

A got 100 and 100 so he got 100.

But B didn't get 96 and 96, rather he got 99 (internal) and 96 for his external which gave him 98 in total.
 

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Lazarus said:
moderated mark = ( lowest internal / highest internal ) * highest external
wouldn't lower ranked schools be advantaged by this since the school sets easier exams or do they get scaled?

this is more confusing than i though -_-
 

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Deltan said:
wouldn't lower ranked schools be advantaged by this since the school sets easier exams or do they get scaled?

this is more confusing than i though -_-
It's not their advantage because they get aligned.

Their marks are meaningless, only the difference in marks/ranks are importance
 

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hassanelias said:
As question say because i go to rubbish school (ranked 500: Giraween) , is there a point going all out for a subject you can get rank 1 in , ex i only need 70 in trial to maintain rank 1 , is their point going for 90 in trials etc?
Perhaps, take it as practice to try and maximise your marks.

Cause, overall, you'll probably get the highest external exam mark as well, and you want that to be as high as possible for greater HSC Mark.
 

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