Just because some "expert" has a degree hanging on their wall doesn't mean we should out-rightly believe them.Refer to the opinions of the psychologists and medical authorities on the wikipedia page linked. Or are you going to say that doesn't represent legitimite psychological reasoning either?
If you want to contest the science, then provide something to make your case.
Because that isn't my argument.Just because some "expert" has a degree hanging on their wall doesn't mean we should out-rightly believe them.
According to your argument (assuming you even read what I posted) all children that were smacked on the bum are now psychologically damaged and traumatised.
I don't need evidence to prove that's a load of crap.
rarely??? are you serious most of the kids going into hsc/atar would've been smacked they are here today because they were told not to put they're hand in the fire and listened hey i'm not saying it's the perfect system but for a child who is immature and uderstands little it's the best way of saying noBecause that isn't my argument.
It is often detrimental to a child's mental health to be physically punished, and very rarely is it beneficial.
hahaah ethics, fuck off.It's absurd to support the use of violence against the most vulnerable and impressionable humans within society if you oppose it in general.
How can you expect children to take parents seriously in saying that violence against others is unacceptable, if they display it themselves against the very same children as a form of discipline?
As for everyone saying that you cannot or should not explain the ramifications of particular behaviours to children, you disgust me. It's no surprise at all that so many adults lack even the slightest grasp of ethics, when they are taught as children that certain actions are "bad" but they are forbidden from asking why.
It is quite clearly the FURTHEST THING FROM BESIDE THE POINT.This is my experience with being punished physically and the mental affects of this form of discipline:
I have always known the consequence of "bad behaviour" to be physical pain. Both my parents used smacking often (my father was actually sadistically abusive, but that's beside the point) without any explanation of why I was being "bad". It did not teach me anything about morals or ethics or how to be a good human being, it just fucked me up so that I came to associate pain with love and punishment with affection. When your parent hurts you physically and then tells you it's because they love you and care for you and your safety, it is inevitably going to result in some warped masochistic ideas of love.
It sends entirely mixed messages to a child when, no matter what their bad behaviour, the consequence is the same: a smack. How could anyone possibly conclude that it is a productive method of discipline and parenting?
Seriously.A smack is not violence.
Generalisation and ad hominem!The only people saying these things are people who have admitted to having less than ideal parents.
Good troll! You do humour well!hahaah ethics, fuck off.
This coming from the same guy who thinks it's okay to kill a police officer if they think that officer is about to take away their "freedom"
Yes. Seriously.Seriously.
how the fuck are you going to get your point across to a toddler. the smack on the ass is sometimes the best way to get a kid to stfu and get in line. wait until you pop out a few kids, you will know what the fuck im talking about.Also, would anyone like to please address my point re: the cane having been an accepted form of discipline historically, but it being widely accepted now that it is a punishment more harmful than helpful?
Isn't it a sign of a civilised society to become less and less dependent on physical punishment and more reliant on talking, teaching and explaining to get points across?
how the fuck are you going to get your point across to a toddler. the smack on the ass is sometimes the best way to get a kid to stfu and get in line. wait until you pop out a few kids, you will know what the fuck im talking about.