+Po1ntDeXt3r+
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if thats the case u might want some of the akyl nitratesstazi said:I sell my anus on the streets anyway..
if thats the case u might want some of the akyl nitratesstazi said:I sell my anus on the streets anyway..
yes they are. people are saying that weed is bad because it's a gateway drug and makes people try harder drugs.+Po1ntDeXt3r+ said:noone said that it was?..... they use it as a risk factor for youth at risk.
alcohol is one too... cos it increases risky behaviour after alcohol consumption..
Yes, even if you start limiting it:Atonofrash said:exactly, that's why 'any brain altering substance is wrong' is a bad statement.
Atonofrash said:yes they are. people are saying that weed is bad because it's a gateway drug and makes people try harder drugs.
correlation between trying weed and trying harder drugs is not the same as trying weed CAUSING you to take harder drugs.
weed being a gateway drug isn't proven.
I would say that the positive correlation between marijuana and harder drug use is a little too strong to ignore.Young people who smoke marijuana are two to five times more likely to move on to harder drugs. That is the formal opinion of researchers, who published their conclusions from a recent study in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA).
Actually it does imply causation, it just doesn't prove causation.Graney said:correlation does not imply causation.
correlation DOES NOT mean causation.boris said:I would say that the positive correlation between marijuana and harder drug use is a little too strong to ignore.
actually there lies an interesting question... was marijuana rates this high in the 1800s and 1900s.. or pre-1950s when ppl started to use it more.....Atonofrash said:yes they are. people are saying that weed is bad because it's a gateway drug and makes people try harder drugs.
correlation between trying weed and trying harder drugs is not the same as trying weed CAUSING you to take harder drugs.
weed being a gateway drug isn't proven.
what?actually there lies an interesting question... was marijuana rates this high in the 1800s and 1900s.. or pre-1950s when ppl started to use it more.....
not a strong case but causation can be implied.. but there are lots of factors there
lol in english?+Po1ntDeXt3r+ said:actually there lies an interesting question... was marijuana rates this high in the 1800s and 1900s.. or pre-1950s when ppl started to use it more.....
not a strong case but causation can be implied.. but there are lots of factors there
in countries where marijuana is a class A drug tho.. lik up with heroin.. there is a lower rate of 'harder' drug uptake.. its not like 100% but its wat we have
and that they surf at times when sharks feed, dawn and dusk.stazi said:lol exactly.
i think a more relevant beach example is saying that people who wear wetsuits are more likely to be attacked by sharks if you find that 80% of the people attacked by sharks are wearing wetsuits.
However, it is also possible that despite this correlation, the actual cause of this phenomenon is that people who wear wetsuits are more likely to be bodyboarders/surfers, who are in turn more likely to go out deeper into the ocean, where there are more likely to be sharks.
exactly. so stop trying to mislead people by saying that there is evidence of causation when there's only studies on correlation+Po1ntDeXt3r+ said:the problem is proving causality with marijuana.. its not lik u can get 13 yrs olds to take it.. or a placebo....
lol its psychological as well..
Based on the hypothesis "marijuana causes increased rates of mental illness", you would expect significantly higher rates of schiophrenia post 1960's, when marijuana use become widespread. Interestingly there has been no such rise.+Po1ntDeXt3r+ said:actually there lies an interesting question... was marijuana rates this high in the 1800s and 1900s.. or pre-1950s when ppl started to use it more.....
actually, there may be a higher rate, but that's due to the refinement (loosening) of the classification criteria for many mental illnessesGraney said:Based on the hypothesis "marijuana causes increased rates of mental illness", you would expect significantly higher rates of schiophrenia post 1960's, when marijuana use become widespread. Interestingly there has been no such rise.
lol no its just not level one evidence.. its lik level 2 and 3Atonofrash said:exactly. so stop trying to mislead people by saying that there is evidence of causation when there's only studies on correlation
:O there are too many problems and too little clinical wealth from doing a retrospective study like that..Graney said:Based on the hypothesis "marijuana causes increased rates of mental illness", you would expect significantly higher rates of schiophrenia post 1960's, when marijuana use become widespread. Interestingly there has been no such rise.