Japanese Learners UNITE!! (2 Viewers)

[eviltama]

Its HAAAARD to learn jap! Dammit and its shitting me because i don't do it in a class or anything so i have no one to compete against and no 'teacher' per se and its like 'omg chaos!' *world implodes*

So an idea... was to see if there was anyone here willing to use this thread to 'learn jap'. Get those who are in the know already (lucky bastards) to give the L-platers here a helping hand. Sentence practise, general questions, stupid questions, anime questions.. you name the issue lets put fingers to keyboard and spit it out. Your question is someone elses little piece of helpful knowledge (which they might not have even knew they had!)! Also... linkage to sites and/or proggies online to supplement language learning... so this could be (if anyone cares) a little BoS Japanese Classroom. All the good stuff and none of the bs.

All of thats only if anyone actually participates and gives a damn...

So who is interested and would actually participate... and not just spectate?

 

[lilmzqt]

ok well im kool to b a part of this......i no abit nd dun mind helpin nd learnin more. so......to start things off.....for all u pplz struggling wid KANJI (arnt we all) here is an excellent site to look at. www.kanjisite.com

if any1 else is interested other than me remember to post here.
oh nd wat kinda questions etc u want? i mite b able to help out there too.......i dunno.

 

[eviltama]

kanji-a-day is a good site as well especially if you wanna sorta be guided by the JLPT and what they think you should be up to.

One of my biggest problems at the moment is motivation. I'm trying to learn the kana (yes yes i know its soooooo easy... >_<) but there is SO MUCH of it to learn and damn its boring... so does anyone have any exciting ways to make this horribly boring task more enjoyable... or even seem more relevant. Because even tho some of it is sticking it doesn't seem as if its doing anything for me... like useless info because i can't use it yet. So ideas?

(I know i had this idea of a BoS Japanese Classroom, not only for beginners.. but the more advanced so perhaps if someone wanted to organise tasks that beginners could do mini lessons or something the like... if people were that interested... otherwise we just let this run its own merry little way)

 

[lilmzqt]

i'll c wat i can do...wen i come up wid questions i'll post em here and if i need help i'll post here for others to help too coz helpin others makes learnin easier 4 u self...thanx 4 d site btw.

 

[69^boi]

Tama y dont u go tafe and japanese dere.....you can even do it online through a program called OTEN and i think im gonna do it too in the future..

 

[eviltama]

tafe = expensive and i'm already doing a diploma at tafe as it is.
OTEN = you can only actually fo 2 modules of the course through them, the other 2 have to be done at a tafe

AND i cbf'd to go to Randwick, Ultimo or Baulkham Hills to learn jap, when i live between MT Druitt, Nirimba and Blacktown Tafes....

 

[snoopy05]

Tama y dont u go tafe and japanese dere.....you can even do it online through a program called OTEN and i think im gonna do it too in the future..

i did the OTEN program for my eHSC, but the class refused to continue it, its soo boring. so we went normal. and btw,
if anyone knows the address for it, could you pass it to me, i wanna visit it again~ ^^

 

[poloktim]

Now that your HSCs are over for you HSC kiddies, come join #nihongo on austnet (and even #hsc) for your Japanese needs. We have only a few learners of Japanese in the channel (and some idlers), so the more of us available, the better it is for eviltama to set up her online classroom, based on vocab.

IRC is a ascii medium, so only romaji will work (and elongated vowels must be put in two characters, so double o must be either oo or ou depending on how you feel comfortable).

It'll be a classroom from home!

 

[mushroom_head]

come join #nihongo on austnet (and even #hsc)

What's that??

 

[snoopy05]

IRC, is a chatting program,
it contains hell lots of people from all over the world. think of it like MSN,
just that the way u chat to people, is by chatting from channels ( rooms ).

when polok tim says , #nihongo, means in channel nihongo,
at austnet, austnet is the server.

so its like, we all go to this nihongo street, in austnet province. u get wat i mean

 

[Lexicographer]

Ooh I haven't done IRC in months...and in that time my average has shot up!

I'll probably come back once my med interview/s is/are over.

 

[69^boi]

by the way does anyone know any japanese combined/double degree in uni??

 

[AcStyle*]

At MQ theres a BBA/BA-Japanese Studies combined degree, the UAI for the course is in the low 90s somewhere.

I have a friend in 1st yr doing this course atm, so far he lyks it, they do 3 business subjects & 1 jap a semester.

 

[Lexicographer]

UTS and UNSW have B×BA Int St and B×BIntSt respectively. The UTS course Bachelor of Arts in International Studies can be combined with most courses offered* and is very popular with students and employers. Check the uts site for more info on the combined course. UNSW offers their Bachelor of International Studies can be taken alone or combined with other courses. It is just as popular to the UTS course though takes a slightly different approach as it can stand alone (unlike the BAIntSt which must be combined with another course). There are four streams and I've forgotten what exactly they are (European Studies, Asian Studies, Languages and Globalisation from memory), see UNSW for more information. USyd is said to be introducing an International Studies course but I don't know anything about it, and of course both USyd and UNSW have their stock and standard Arts degrees where you pick your major blah blah blah.

*except BIT, BAcc, and a handful of other special entry courses

 

[Toodulu]

k at USYD you can do a B. Arts, B. Arts (advanced), B. Arts (international), B. Liberal Studies, B. Liberal studies (adv), B. Liberal Studies (int.), B. Commerce (Liberal Studies) and study japanese as one of your major

you can also pick japanese as an elective if you have space in your degree

if you want to specialise in languages there is a B. Arts (languages) where you learn 2 languages

with all the language studies at usyd, if you want to major in it you also need to take some "studies" units. like you can pick to study something about japanese linguistics, or japanese society etc

 

[moogle]

you *can* type japanese on IRC (umm ok, i only know that in mirc you can.. not sure about other clients), you just need the right settings to read and type it


random note: i do computer science. there's so many electives that i can do a japanese major with them =P guess i can drop the arts bit heh :x

 

[69^boi]

is international studies and bachelor of arts(language) the same shit?

 

[Toodulu]

i think international studies is at unsw
and i don't think they're the same structure, electives etc
also for arts (languages) you study 2 languages, whereas i think the int. studies course you pick streams like asian/european/globalisation

international studies is also at uts.. but that's more country-specific and you learn about that country and study the language and go for a year

 

[Lexicographer]

Yeah at UNSW you pick one of the four streams, and a country/language appropriate to that stream except Languages, where you pick two countries). At UTS you pick an individual country (or region, see the IIS site for details) and your studies focus on that particular area's language and culture. It's got less history than the UNSW component, and I am told the subjects are more "hands-on" than at UNSW. Both courses send students to their focal countries for a full academic year (though I think UNSW is more flexible about that).

UNSW International Studies is more "arts" in that it focuses not on the language alone but also on the history and culture of the region studied. BA(Lang) tends to study history and culture only to the point of understanding language and nuance, without further exploring the depth of said history and culture as a means of understanding the society as a whole. Compared to BIntSt it is what it's name suggests - an Arts degree in Language.

 

[69^boi]

ok u uni have to use easier terms im not in uni.... BA?BSc?B.INt Bcom Hmmm...
ahhh yes i understand Bacheoler of Arts,INternational Studies,Commerce
They used that Abbreviation shit too in textbook about authors(Dip.ed, Masters in
Economic or woteva)took like a few months to understand y on sum ppl sigs say BA BSc, BCom etc...y didnt sumone tell me earlier!! is there another god damm abbreviation i should know