John Howard misleads public? (3 Viewers)

[tennille]

Who believes that John Howard has broken his election promise by sending troops to Iraq? It was announced last night that he will increase the amount of troops by 450 simply to support the country's move to democracy.

Discuss.

 

[timrie6]

yes, lying can be said to be misleading

 

[tennille]

If the country needs a democracy then why would you send more troops...i find that a bit ironic.

 

[tennille]

John howard misleads of the Australia public so often that no one blinks when he does it. It's hardly even newsworthy.

Yay for liberal democracy!

Bleh.

That's so true. lol.

 

[Generator]

At least this should finally shift Cornelia Rau and Rod Barton (amongst other issues) over to the side... Fantastic.

 

[malkin86]

Which election promise was this, and was the issue core, or non-core?

 

[absolution*]

As long as the people of Iraq are free under democratic rule and are finally showered in human rights, who cares how many troops are sent over?

 

[malkin86]

Yes, because we all know that that was the main point of the exercise...

 

[tennille]

Which election promise was this, and was the issue core, or non-core?

Wouldn't have a clue.

 

[malkin86]

So, "core promises" are promises that are easy to keep?

I believe that he carefully words everything he says so that they're so vague they might be mistaken for the truth.

 

[Inscrutable]

damn, if only i was 18 earlier, i would've voted and made a difference, lol

 

[tennille]

damn, if only i was 18 earlier, i would've voted and made a difference, lol

Same here. Still not 18 for another 3 months. We would have made a big difference. All 2 of us.

 

[absolution*]

woohoo 18 tomorrow. howard = fucked now.

 

[Inscrutable]

woohoo 18 tomorrow. howard = fucked now.

howards fucked already isnt he, isnt this his last term, im not sure cause i havent been in this country too long

 

[malkin86]

There isn't a limit to how many terms a Prime Minister can serve in Australia, IIRC. One PM has even disappeared (presumed dead) in office - Harold Holt.

 

[Inscrutable]

There isn't a limit to how many terms a Prime Minister can serve in Australia, IIRC. One PM has even disappeared (presumed dead) in office - Harold Holt.

oh what! damn
then im with 'absolution' and 'tennille' Howards Fucked

 

[tennille]

There isn't a limit to how many terms a Prime Minister can serve in Australia, IIRC. One PM has even disappeared (presumed dead) in office - Harold Holt.

I think he die at a beach or something.

 

[Inscrutable]

which scum voted a 'no'

 

[Plebeian]

Who believes that John Howard has broken his election promise by sending troops to Iraq? It was announced last night that he will increase the amount of troops by 450 simply to support the country's move to democracy.

Discuss.

It's not simply to support the country's move to democracy, the reason he gave was to replace Dutch soldiers protecting Japanese combat engineers building (apparently) roads and schools. The Dutch have withdrawn, and the Japanese are constitutionally forbidden from sending their own troops to protect their non-combat personnel. In any case, Howard has actually admitted that he broke the election promise, he seems to think it doesn't really matter.

Mr Howard now admits the government's position has changed, but said that reflects the changing situation in Iraq.

The level of troop commitment in Iraq, apart from then Opposition leader Mark Latham's "rather foolish commitment" to bring Australian forces home by Christmas, was not a central issue in last year's election campaign, the prime minister said.

"I admit quite openly that we have changed our position," he told ABC radio in an interview recorded in Perth last night and broadcast this morning.
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"I'm not running away from the fact that I have previously said I did not contemplate a major increase and that was a fair statement of the government's state of mind at the time I made that.

"But in these situations a government must have a capacity, if circumstances alter, and it is judged to be not only in our own interest but also in the broader interests of democracy and the Middle East that we make those changes."

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[malkin86]

Is it a lie if circumstances change so that he had to act differently?