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so you believe that splitting apart a company that has a vested interest in maintaining the current copper wire network in rural areas will not encourage a new fibre optic network?
 

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selling telstra to private investors (privatising) will ensure that they improve rural services, because they will have to.... in theory.

we need more competition in the telecommunications industry simply because if we dont, then telstra will control the whole deal and there will be noone to compare it with.

a structured, systematic plan needs to be devised to ensure that not only will the telecommunications industy be accessible for foreign companies but it will be run on the basis of supply and demand and pro-competitive business practices.

homo:
no. they wouldnt. that's a cost. private companies do not like costs as it forces their share prices down, and the bosses cannot pay themselves as much. fibre optic cables need to be funded by the government while there is still government control.

neo_o:
get your news from better sources next time.
 

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few, i thought this was going to be a rant of how crappy telstra's services are. at least there's a little originality in neo's post :p
 

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telstra is good either way, improving rural services or not. paying a good dividend after a 1/5 or $4 billion increase in income. with a buyback scheme aswell and hovering around $5, im happy
 

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The biggest problem with Telstra in the coming decade is going to be switching from copper wire to fibre. This is a massive undertaking it's estimated to be about $30bn. You'll never be able to get that from private investment in this country.

Because it is a matter of infrastructure like roads and rail, I say Telstra should be split up with the infrastructure part entirely in the hands of the government. Only the government will be able to raise that necessary $30bn through loans and debt, not a privatised company.

When you look at privatisation, you seem to forget that the rural component of Telstra makes up shit all of their profit. Their main profit comes from the built up urban areas with businesses and so on - this is where their main base is. So logically, if they privatise, why would they pay any attention to an area where they have almost no growth and no profit?

What I think would be the smartest idea is to remove control of the infrastructure from the private Telstra. If a private company like Telstra has in its hands basically the key to the whole system then there will never be competition. If the government has the instrastructure and you allow competition to flourish in the provision of services such as internet, telephone, etc etc then things become cheaper, new technology is introduced to make use of the new fibre and the government will be pressured by these companies as new technology comes available to improve and build on the infrastucture.

A private Telstra that doesn't own infrastructure can own however much of Foxtel it wants :p
 
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has anyone ever had a dream where they walk into a telstra building with an AK47 and start wasting ppl who work there

cause id imagine life working in telstra would be like working in 'officespace'- any1 seen that with jennifer aniston directed by the guy who created king of the hill
 

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big_ticket said:
telstra is good either way, improving rural services or not. paying a good dividend after a 1/5 or $4 billion increase in income. with a buyback scheme aswell and hovering around $5, im happy
You're not sorry you missed selling them at the peak of $9? I am, but the dividend payouts in the next few years are reason to hang onto them for me personally. My CBA shares are paying record dividends, w00t! :)

I think Ziff's right, we don't even have cable in Newcastle probably because there's no money to be made.

Telstra as a privately owned company have the right not to service rural areas if it's going to lose money. If the government still owned Telstra, then they may be required to service rural areas... but it's like saying that a bank should open up down the corner from your street just because it's convenient for you, despite the fact it's going to cost them money to do so.
 
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Fuck rural services anyway,
we should genetically modify all our produce and make whinging farmers defunct.
 

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i reckon theres going to be a war between city and rural areas when those north of newcastle, south of wollongong andwest of the great dividing range try to seperate from the rest of NSW
 

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Yeah I'm real sorry about this coming war guys, but Telstra has stiffed us again, along with the rest of the Sydney based orgnisations that can't see past the freeway out of Sydney.
Then again, from what I hear on the news Carl Scully has ruined your train service so we're all in the same boat.
I'm am still pissed about Telstra selling services overseas. That's jobs lost from Australian workers.
 

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