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I do Ext 1 + Advanced.

Lets say my HSC mark is 80. Let's say my internal mark is 66.

(80+66)/2 = 73

73 is a nice whole number. However since I'm doing 1 unit of extension, I'll get 36.5. Will it get brought up to 37, or brought down to 36?
 

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I do Ext 1 + Advanced.

Lets say my HSC mark is 80. Let's say my internal mark is 66.

(80+66)/2 = 73

73 is a nice whole number. However since I'm doing 1 unit of extension, I'll get 36.5. Will it get brought up to 37, or brought down to 36?
It will "visually" appear as 37/50 on your report. However, the underlying mark is actually 36.5/50 (i.e. it is treated as lower than someone who actually got 37/50).
 

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It will "visually" appear as 37/50 on your report. However, the underlying mark is actually 36.5/50 (i.e. it is treated as lower than someone who actually got 37/50).
Would this also be true for if I got a 83 extenral and a 78 interna. Would my mark be 80.5 instead of 81? Assuming a 2 unit subject
 
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Would this also be true for if I got a 83 extenral and a 78 interna. Would my mark be 80.5 instead of 81? Assuming a 2 unit subject
Yes. The exact mark is stored in the database, but in the HSC report it is displayed as a rounded whole number.
 

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I do Ext 1 + Advanced.

Lets say my HSC mark is 80. Let's say my internal mark is 66.

(80+66)/2 = 73

73 is a nice whole number. However since I'm doing 1 unit of extension, I'll get 36.5. Will it get brought up to 37, or brought down to 36?
But what if you were just of the next band, a 69 for example, would it show as 35 and band e2? Doesn’t make sense
 

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on your results page, after alignment, its rounded to the nearest whole number (or nearest even number ig for 3u kids who don't do 4u). this is purely just for display purposes

however, UAC gets given marks to 4dp, so rounding makes no difference for your atar

in regards to the 80 external, and 66 internal, your mark would be displayed as 37/50 for a 3u kid, however this rounding up is not a benefit when it comes to atar
 

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looks like they changed the filename from

2023_HSC_MATHS_EXT1_HSC_Solutions_MATRIX-EDUCATION.pdf

to

2023_MATHS_EXT1_HSC_Solutions_HSC-MATHS-EXTENSION-1-SOLUTIONS.pdf

I fixed the link in post #451
 

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They also seem to have changed 12e

2023_HSC_MATHS_EXT1_HSC_Solutions_MATRIX-EDUCATION.pdf had

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2023_MATHS_EXT1_HSC_Solutions_HSC-MATHS-EXTENSION-1-SOLUTIONS.pdf has

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Also in 13b 2023_HSC_MATHS_EXT1_HSC_Solutions_MATRIX-EDUCATION.pdf had
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and 2023_MATHS_EXT1_HSC_Solutions_HSC-MATHS-EXTENSION-1-SOLUTIONS.pdf has
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So 2023_MATHS_EXT1_HSC_Solutions_HSC-MATHS-EXTENSION-1-SOLUTIONS.pdf is the better version.

Also if you have both versions it might be better to rename this one

2023_HSC_MATHS_EXT1_HSC_Solutions_MATRIX-EDUCATION-version2.pdf or something like that.
 
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So if you wrote it out in full it would be



I've heard various stories about how many marks this would get - everything from 0 to full marks.

I didn't go to NESA's HSC feedback day today which was held at UTS - but I heard that at that the HSC markers confirmed it would get full marks.

Arguments for saying stick to the syllabus is seriously weakened when many students have not been in schools in NSW for 13 years, but rather in later years come to Australia to do the HSC - when they have already been educated elsewhere in determinants, vectors including cross product, matrices etc.

So when they see a question like this it is obvious to them to use the cross product - and now according to the HSC markers would not be penalised for doing so - especially when the question said "or otherwise".
 

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I've heard various stories about how many marks this would get - everything from 0 to full marks.

I didn't go to NESA's HSC feedback day today which was held at UTS - but I heard that at that the HSC markers confirmed it would get full marks.

Arguments for saying stick to the syllabus is seriously weakened when many students have not been in schools in NSW for 13 years, but rather in later years come to Australia to do the HSC - when they have already been educated elsewhere in determinants, vectors including cross product, matrices etc.

So when they see a question like this it is obvious to them to use the cross product - and now according to the HSC markers would not be penalised for doing so - especially when the question said "or otherwise".
They could have just come from Victoria, the VCE specialist maths course includes vector cross products!
 

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They could have just come from Victoria, the VCE specialist maths course includes vector cross products!
So do you think it's fair to give full marks for the obviously much shorter solution - compared to these which obviously take much longer time and effort?

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(from nesa mg)
 
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So do you think it's fair to give full marks for the obviously much shorter solution - compared to these which obviously take much longer time and effort?

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(from nesa mg)
yeah no, i dont think that's fair
the simpler solution (3 posts ago) doesn't assess anything from the actual NSW syllabus pretty much. theres no way someone should be getting 3/3 for that.
 

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