mens rights (2 Viewers)

[tattoodguy]

Firstly, i saw this article in the paper a dude...he has a daughter and i think she was 14......and some dude was commming over to take her out.

like an older dude..............so the dad said she cant go out.........and then threeated her with a shot gun ------------------fucking champion. You gota look after ur kids u know....................kids are out of hand, all these young bitches gettting pedofiled etc............cos there fuckign stupid.

That dude deserves a fucking award for being a goood father, we need more dads like that in society, not putting them in jail etc.

u should have the legal right to hit..........threated ur kid.........its ur fucking property until it turns like 18 or somerthing.


secondly, this dude, he bashed his gf and knocked the fucking kid out of her and now he got like a 12 year sentence. This is fucking bull shit.
If you fuck a chick and get her preganant......the baby is both of urs............why can only the bitch have a say if the kid lives or dies.

Girls can have abortions and kill the guys baby.......that happens all the time.

so why cant a dude, give a chick a nice hard kick or punch to the stomach if he doesnt want the kid.

If ur not the dad thats diffferent ---------------------------but if its ur kid u should have the legal right to bash the kid out of her.................or at a minimum u should only get a slap on the wrist --------------------its fucking rediculous.........for giving someone an abortion u get 12 years.........................when its ur own kid and abortion is legal in our country.

fucking bulllshit legal system.




i would also like to addd................that dude who broke out of jail before and had a shoot out with the police ......who is about to be released.................cox --------------------sick cunt.

tandy, or whatever the correction officer is called ----------------------is also a sick cunt.

victims of crime...who hold a grudge after 29 years....and shit..........fuck u.

 

[joujou_84]

Firstly, i saw this article in the paper a dude...he has a daughter and i think she was 14......and some dude was commming over to take her out.

like an older dude..............so the dad said she cant go out.........and then threeated her with a shot gun ------------------fucking champion. You gota look after ur kids u know....................kids are out of hand, all these young bitches gettting pedofiled etc............cos there fuckign stupid.

That dude deserves a fucking award for being a goood father, we need more dads like that in society, not putting them in jail etc.

u should have the legal right to hit..........threated ur kid.........its ur fucking property until it turns like 18 or somerthing.


secondly, this dude, he bashed his gf and knocked the fucking kid out of her and now he got like a 12 year sentence. This is fucking bull shit.
If you fuck a chick and get her preganant......the baby is both of urs............why can only the bitch have a say if the kid lives or dies.

Girls can have abortions and kill the guys baby.......that happens all the time.

so why cant a dude, give a chick a nice hard kick or punch to the stomach if he doesnt want the kid.

If ur not the dad thats diffferent ---------------------------but if its ur kid u should have the legal right to bash the kid out of her.................or at a minimum u should only get a slap on the wrist --------------------its fucking rediculous.........for giving someone an abortion u get 12 years.........................when its ur own kid and abortion is legal in our country.

fucking bulllshit legal system.

u have a twisted way of explaining things but ur sort of right........parents do need to control their kids a bit more........however u dont pull a shot gun on ur kid....if my dad eva did that to me.....i would be afraid to live in the same house as him.......also abortions are not life threatening however kicking a pregnant woman could kill her.......my cousin was 13 when he kicked my mum in the stomach and she miscarried....and almost died in hospital........only someone with an anger managment problem (like ur self) or a nutcase would hit a pregnant woman....however i would like to see u practice wat u preach and pull a shotgun on ur daughter and watch her run away from home and become a prostitute.......

 

[acmilan]

I was curious, it doesnt really relate, but i was wondering what rights do we have if someone breaks into our house. Like are we allowed to tie them up, put a gun to their head and torture them until the cops come?

 

[Phanatical]

Mens Rights, Taiwan Independence. Two of my areas of speciality

 

[joujou_84]

I was curious, it doesnt really relate, but i was wondering what rights do we have if someone breaks into our house. Like are we allowed to tie them up, put a gun to their head and torture them until the cops come?

no u can get charged.......or the robber can sue....

 

[acmilan]

no u can get charged.......or the robber can sue....

Ah that's bs. I mean they can break into your house but they dont have to suffer the consequences if you manage to stop them

 

[tattoodguy]

i dont have an anger managment problem.

but im saying.....................like if its ur kid...........and a woman is aloud to get an abortyion and killl ur kid....................why cant u hit her..and maker her have a miscarrriage ................its the same shit.

if you damage her etc..........that should be taken into account.

but if you just fuck up the baby only...............then its irrelevant cos its ur kid.........and the law says.........women are aloud to kill there babies ..........so why cant men.


why cant u pulll a gun on ur kid...........if there fucked up............................

i think its the right thing to do..............u gota get ur kid in line............cos how kids are acting these days is rediculous...................fucking government giving kids all these rights and shit.......................until u turn 18..................u dont deseve any rights. or something.........welll just very basic rights......................but ur parnets should have the right to bash u and threaten u.

 

[joujou_84]

Ah that's bs. I mean they can break into your house but they dont have to suffer the consequences if you manage to stop them

yeh weird isnt it........i read once in a mag at the doctors (u read wonders waiting for the doctor) abt a guy who was trying to get into a shop through the roof to steal but he slipt and fell through the glass and then sued the shop owner for damages......and this guy (Karate teacher) once found a guy in his house with a knife so of course the karate dude punched the lights outta this robber and he got arrested....

 

[Phanatical]

Men are becoming increasingly disadvantaged in our modern society, yet there are no support groups or help lines and such available for men. You call one for women with a
similar problem, and they'll tell you you're "perpetuating the (so-called) patriarchy".

So why can't men have support groups?

 

[tattoodguy]

yeah those ............ppple who allledgedly found an abo......breaking into that house etc...........................in qld

like the kid etc.................so they hit him, put a rope on him and threated him with a gun..............alledgedly.

nothing wrong with that.....................abos stop jumping up and down over some bull shit.....................

if you break into a house and shit.........u deserve to get fucked up.

anyone who dishes out some justice = sick cunt.

 

[joujou_84]

i dont have an anger managment problem.

but im saying.....................like if its ur kid...........and a woman is aloud to get an abortyion and killl ur kid....................why cant u hit her..and maker her have a miscarrriage ................its the same shit.

if you damage her etc..........that should be taken into account.

but if you just fuck up the baby only...............then its irrelevant cos its ur kid.........and the law says.........women are aloud to kill there babies ..........so why cant men.


why cant u pulll a gun on ur kid...........if there fucked up............................

i think its the right thing to do..............u gota get ur kid in line............cos how kids are acting these days is rediculous...................fucking government giving kids all these rights and shit.......................until u turn 18..................u dont deseve any rights. or something.........welll just very basic rights......................but ur parnets should have the right to bash u and threaten u.

u cant hit a pregnant woman and only kill the baby....the woman begins to haemorage...........and anyway u can discipline ur kids in other ways......i dont see why u need to use a gun.......anyway ive neva been hit and im not fucked up..........if u teach ur kids correct behaviour when theyre young then they wont grow up to be the bad apples of society......i dont agree with this new law that dosent allow parents to hit their kids........why not....some kids deserve to be hit..........there was this kid in the shop once who was chucking a tantrum abt something n fully screaming while the sadcase mum is saying "calm down sweeti, its ok, come on darling get off the floor".....bloody hell just smack him a little n teach him some discipline.........dont abuse ur kids but also dont be so bloody leniant...u have bullshit books that tell u to put them in their rooms..........i love my room, its got plenty of entertainment......if my mum told me to got to my room id be pretty happy.......or once i read that instead of hitting ur kids u should go and take a shower to clam down......wft??? why should u....and how is that disciplining the damn child........anyway that law sucks........coz when these kids get older and become menaces of society the parents are quickly blamed.............well then just let them bloody raise their kids the way they want and dont tell them how to discipline their own children.........geez i didnt realise i was so passionate abt this topic.....oh well......

 

[Phanatical]

It's called "reasonable force". Tying somebody up and abusing them is somewhat more than "reasonable". And the fact is that the victim is more likely to get more jail time than the thief.

 

[joujou_84]

Men are becoming increasingly disadvantaged in our modern society, yet there are no support groups or help lines and such available for men. You call one for women with a
similar problem, and they'll tell you you're "perpetuating the (so-called) patriarchy".

So why can't men have support groups?

they do............its called AA......

 

[mr EaZy]

secondly, this dude, he bashed his gf and knocked the fucking kid out of her and now he got like a 12 year sentence. This is fucking bull shit.
If you fuck a chick and get her preganant......the baby is both of urs............why can only the bitch have a say if the kid lives or dies.

Girls can have abortions and kill the guys baby.......that happens all the time.

so why cant a dude, give a chick a nice hard kick or punch to the stomach if he doesnt want the kid.

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im glad im not the only one to have seen that as odd, both abortions and kicking a pregant girl's stomach kill the infant

in the news i saw that the prosecutor wanted the sentence increased coz the guy killed an innocent life (the baby), so abortions should be the same thing right?- taking the life away from a baby?


im still confused on abortions- ill start up a new thread

 

[Phanatical]

Sure, all men are violent alcoholics. That's what society certainly seems to think.

Men are from Earth, Women are from Earth. But the Feminists Movement is from Uranus.

The following article was written by myself in regards to unequal representation at the University of Sydney. But it discusses some very relevant points to the greater issue of Men's rights, so I have posted it here.

The University of Sydney is a very female-friendly place. We have a well-paid Women’s Officer at the SRC, and a well-paid Women’s Officer at the USYD Union. But we don’t have a Men’s officer or a Men’s space on campus, and this strikes me as unfair in the least. In this article, I focus on the SRC, but my criticisms do not lie with them alone.

During my 2004 campaign for SRC President, I promoted the idea of a gender-neutral Gender Issues Officer, who would be in a position to deal with the unique issues facing both men of women of different backgrounds. Central to this idea was an acknowledgement that women’s rights equal human rights, but so do men’s rights, and for our Women’s Office to deny the needs of men in society smacks of reverse discrimination of the worst kind. Not surprisingly, my proposal was harshly criticised by our overly politicised SRC, whose political interests don’t include representing the “evil” male population at the University.

The Women’s Office actively promotes the one-sided view of feminist politics, encouraging their “sisters” in our student body to make a stand against the evil men out to oppress women. Its main role is to promote the rights of women – this is all well and good – BUT it does so by attacking the rights of men. Something the SRC Women’s Office has always failed to realise is that in promoting the rights and achievements of women, they do not need to downplay the rights and achievements of men.

But not only does it not represent men, it is also blind to the values and beliefs of many women throughout this University. The Women’s Office of the SRC seems to believe that all women have a shared political interest, which all women should support (“Vote for me because I’m a woman!”, “Vote for Party A because Party B opposes abortion/breastfeeding/whatever” etc.), and it is on this basis that our student funds continue to maintain this office. I believe this mentality is flawed at best.

Looking at a significant issue to the women’s office – abortion – there does not seem to be a consensus among women, who are generally split equally between pro-life and pro-choice. Only by demeaning pro-life women, dismissing their beliefs as unenlightened and uninformed, can our advocates at the SRC and Union , and at the University itself, explain the “women-oppressing” mentality of their “sisters”. Certainly, any sort of disagreement with the Women’s Office is dismissed as “reactionary politics”, or “perpetuating the patriarchy”. I say that such “identity politics” does not belong in our universities as it polarises men and women in a cause which should be fought by both genders for the benefit of both genders. Whatever happened to the idea that human rights are universal? That is, that all human beings possess the same rights, which are not determined by differences such as gender or race? The fact that we have universal rights would suggest that all of us who share those rights have an interest in protecting these rights, whether they are male or female.

Certainly, it is in all our interests to promote ideas such as equal rights and freedom of speech – it is this cherished freedom which allows me to write this article. The Women’s office would argue however that men and women do NOT share the same interests in freedom of speech. My writings have been criticised in the past for “oppressing women (and thus perpetuating the patriarchy)”, when all I have argued is equal rights for men at the University. In asking for more rights for men, it is perceived that I am taking away rights from women, but I believe that rights for men equals rights for women.

The feminists of yesteryear fought for equal rights. Denying men Their rights completely undermines the cause.

 

[Enlightened_One]

I was curious, it doesnt really relate, but i was wondering what rights do we have if someone breaks into our house. Like are we allowed to tie them up, put a gun to their head and torture them until the cops come?

I think you could get away with it all but the torture.

Anyway, as to the original post.

Parents ought to have the right to control their kids, but pulling a gun is going to far.

It would be really a pathetic, sadistic, miserable bastard who bashed a pregnant woman.

And as for the prison escapee, he broke the law in the first place, and I've no sympathy for him. But I do have sympathy for the cops, they get too much shit for simply trying to stop a descent into anarchy

 

[acmilan]

I might be mistaken but i thought i heard somewhere that they just passed or are trying to pass a law that killing an unborn baby is going to be considered as bodily harm now (except unless it is done through abortion)

 

[anti]

I'd be surprised if anybody managed to kick a pregnant woman in the stomach and not cause some injury to her.. there's a reason that abortions were legalised, and that was to prevent 'backyard abortions' where you paid a sum of money for some untrained person to 'give you an abortion' (kick you in the stomach?)

 

[tattoodguy]

the point is though.....................why does only the woman decide.

it takes 2 to fuck.

its ur spoooof that made the baby.....................and the bitch is bound to hang offf you like a fucking leach, to make you pay for it..................child support etc etc.

you should telll her to get an abortion if you dont want the responsibility of having a kid.
If she then refuses i dont seee anything wrong with

kicking the shit out of her......and scooping the remains out with a coat hanger.

its the bitches fault anyways for trying to trap a dude and get his money etc, she should have used protection.

................thats a bit harsh i guesss.....................but seriuosly..............whats the difference betweeen that.......................and a chick killing a dudes baby by getting the featus or whatever the fuck it is..sucked out with a vacume cleaner............???
im not saying...............its not wrong to hit women under some circumstances etc.............but why is a woman aloud to killl ur baby,
and receive no jail, but you do the same and you get 12 years
its not fair,,,,,,,,,,,serioiusly..............we need to stop feeeling so ssorrry for bitches,.

its so fucking sexist all these fucking laws protecting them etc..........fucking helll.

like when bitches get an abotion..there is like some sympathy for her etc.......she just killed someone and most fuck heads in our society are like pooooooooor girl -----------------....but when a guy does it.........we label him a cunt.

i support every dude who doesnt want to have a financial parasite hanging offf him for the rest of his life .............being a man and fixing the problem himself --------------a few punches is cheaper anyways, abortions are like a few hundred bucks.


But seriously, someone explain why only the woman gets to decide???????????? its bull shit. 12 years in jail should be reserved for killing someone or other very serious crimes------------women kill babies every day scott free.

 

[ur_inner_child]

don't make the assumption that when a woman has a baby, she's doing it for herself. Maybe the guy DID agree?

The guy's opinion is completly valid and should be taken into account, and i totally agree. It's a huge and complicated matter, and there are too many exceptions and different situations

but I agree ONLY that the man has valuable input, but not enough to sway the decision, say, to kick the woman in the stomach against her will.

That's ridiculous.


Plus pregnancies do happen even when they use contraception