Nelson Mandela has died, aged 95 (2 Viewers)

[wannaspoon]

http://www.news.com.au/world/nelson-mandela-has-died-aged-95/story-fndir2ev-1226661220399

RIP you legend...

 

[SylviaB]

he's not a legend he's a commie terrorist who ruined south africa

 

[hawkrider]

he's not a legend he's a commie terrorist who ruined south africa

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[SylviaB]

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nice to see you dont know anything about south africa then, huh

 

[wannaspoon]

he's not a legend he's a commie terrorist who ruined south africa

History is written by the victors...

 

[hayabusaboston]

he's not a legend he's a commie terrorist who ruined south africa

Ahahahaha :')

LOVE U SYLVIAB!


Ppl dont like to associate "terrorist" and "commie" with mandela, the media has made him a god, and thats what ppl base their opinions off unfortunately, ppl just dont know the background info.

 

[wannaspoon]

nice to see you dont know anything about south africa then, huh

he lead a military like revolt against that apartheid regime similar to the black panthers movement in the states... sorry, but I sympathise with that cause more than some white guy who wishes to mistreat a certain class of people on the basis of their skin colour...

 

[SylviaB]

History is written by the victors...

lmao, is that supposed to support your position?

Mandela and the anc ARE the victors

 

[SylviaB]

 

[wannaspoon]

Ppl dont like to associate "terrorist" and "commie" with mandela, the media has made him a god, and thats what ppl base their opinions off unfortunately, ppl just dont know the background info.

I'm actually watching ABC news to find that they are not actually portraying him as a god... they admit that he participated in bombings of government buildings during the apartheid period, that he was on the US terror watch list till 2008, etc... still don't mind the chap...

Modern day V for Vendetta

 

[SylviaB]

he turned the most prosperous nation in African history in a thirdworld shithole which relies on foreign aid to feed its people

despite the fact that they have murdered thousands of white farmers and stolen their land

and then the leader of his party, the rapist Jacob Zuma, spends the foreign aid money building himself a mansion

His party turned the safest nation in africa into the rape and murder capital of the world, with more than 1 in 3 men admitting to having raped at least one woman

His party destroyed the world class health and education systems that used to exist in the country

but it was worth slaughtering innocent civilians for this

 

[wannaspoon]

^ nooooooo, I believe HIV ruined South Africa...

its kind of hard to run your country when 5.7 Million people in it have HIV/AIDS... with 1 in 2 deaths attributed from complications to HIV/AIDS... try having a world class healthcare system in that circumstance...

and its easy to say you have a world class education system when its only available to those who are rich, successful and white...

 

[isildurrrr1]

nice to see you dont know anything about south africa then, huh

the support of apartheid is strong in this one.

 

[SylviaB]

 

[Kiraken]

he turned the most prosperous nation in African history in a thirdworld shithole which relies on foreign aid to feed its people

despite the fact that they have murdered thousands of white farmers and stolen their land

and then the leader of his party, the rapist Jacob Zuma, spends the foreign aid money building himself a mansion

His party turned the safest nation in africa into the rape and murder capital of the world, with more than 1 in 3 men admitting to having raped at least one woman

His party destroyed the world class health and education systems that used to exist in the country

but it was worth slaughtering innocent civilians for this

yeah completely ignore the fact that said "shithole" was a massive shithole for the vast majority of the population (non-whites) beforehand plus there was inequality, at least one of these problems has been addressed.

also this might come as a shock to you but zuma does not equal mandela, they *are* different people, and how zuma spends his money has nothing to do with mandela.

Also thank you for that rape article link, it's quite clear you cannot read because it says the following

"Jewkes believes South Africa's history of racial division and associated trauma is part of the reason of the high incidence of sexual violence in the country.

"Apartheid has contributed to culture of impunity surrounding rape in South Africa," said Jewkes. Men who were abused or experienced trauma during their childhood are much more likely to rape, she said, adding that apartheid destroyed family life, fostering violence and anti-social behavior.

The apartheid period also saw very little enforcement of common law, which has contributed to a culture of impunity, said Jewkes."

so gg for proving why it's so great that Mandela got rid of apartheid which was clearly a major contributing factor to this

yes, world class health and education systems for *white* people.

lol and pls spare me the innocent civilians bullshit, if you really cared for innocent civilians you would understand that apartheid lead to massacres of tonnes of non-white people and none of this bitterness against whites would exist if they weren't such assholes in treating other people like shit in the first place in that country

 

[SylviaB]

yeah completely ignore the fact that said "shithole" was a massive shithole for the vast majority of the population (non-whites) beforehand

It was much worse before the ANC came to power.

The thing is though 90% of blacks living in south africa moved to or had ancestors who moved to south africa AFTER European settlement. They would often travel vast differences to get there, because the wealth available to them was unheard of in Africa. So yeah, the Europeans made things better for the black by the blacks own implicit reasoning, and the ANC have made things worse.

plus there was inequality

who gives a fuck

you want equality, go live in Chad

also this might come as a shock to you but zuma does not equal mandela, they *are* different people, and how zuma spends his money has nothing to do with mandela.

The ANC and Zuma are in power because of Mandela's actions. Zuma and Mandela were close friends, so Mandela had no problem with Zuma's actions.

Also thank you for that rape article link, it's quite clear you cannot read because it says the following

"Jewkes believes South Africa's history of racial division and associated trauma is part of the reason of the high incidence of sexual violence in the country.

YEAH, AND THATS COMPLETELY FUCKING IDIOTIC

"Apartheid has contributed to culture of impunity surrounding rape in South Africa," said Jewkes. Men who were abused or experienced trauma during their childhood are much more likely to rape, she said, adding that apartheid destroyed family life, fostering violence and anti-social behavior.

Nope, that's idiotic. Just like in teh US, white rule lead to ahistoric stability and wealth for blacks

The apartheid period also saw very little enforcement of common law, which has contributed to a culture of impunity, said Jewkes."

Nope. ENDING aprtehid has seen a collapse in the rule of law. These problems weren't around before Mandela.

yes, world class health and education systems for *white* people.

No you fucking retard.

lol and pls spare me the innocent civilians bullshit, if you really cared for innocent civilians you would understand that apartheid lead to massacres of tonnes of non-white people

No, it fucking didn't.

and none of this bitterness against whites would exist if they weren't such assholes in treating other people like shit in the first place in that country

ignoring the fact that apartheid wasn't even that bad, the average white person didn't do anything. They were truly innocent, and their presence brought wealth to africa like never before seen.

but if a black person rapes a mans daughter, are you going to excuse him for going out and shooting a bunch of negroes?

of course not.

 

[enoilgam]

well, less mouths to feed maybe? I would say thats a plus?

the AIDS/HIV is a form of population control u could say. Just imagine where the world would be right now if there were no STD's or fatal diseases in general. Fucking overflowing with human flesh, disgusting.



Anyone with IQ over 80 can logically deduce, less people=easier management.

I'm going to quote this the next time you ask why people have zero respect for you.

 

[Kiraken]

It was much worse before the ANC came to power.

The thing is though 90% of blacks living in south africa moved to or had ancestors who moved to south africa AFTER European settlement. They would often travel vast differences to get there, because the wealth available to them was unheard of in Africa. So yeah, the Europeans made things better for the black by the blacks own implicit reasoning, and the ANC have made things worse.



who gives a fuck

you want equality, go live in Chad



The ANC and Zuma are in power because of Mandela's actions. Zuma and Mandela were close friends, so Mandela had no problem with Zuma's actions.




YEAH, AND THATS COMPLETELY FUCKING IDIOTIC



Nope, that's idiotic. Just like in teh US, white rule lead to ahistoric stability and wealth for blacks



Nope. ENDING aprtehid has seen a collapse in the rule of law. These problems weren't around before Mandela.




No you fucking retard.



No, it fucking didn't.




ignoring the fact that apartheid wasn't even that bad, the average white person didn't do anything. They were truly innocent, and their presence brought wealth to africa like never before seen.

but if a black person rapes a mans daughter, are you going to excuse him for going out and shooting a bunch of negroes?

of course not.

Source of your first claim

Hahahaha "who gives a fuck about equality" hahahaha shit look if you hate black people so much grow a pair and just say it instead of pussyfooting around it with pseudointellectualism, it's embarrassing

Yes because if you are part of the sane political party as someone you are totally responsible for *all* their actions including personal

The rest of ur post is literally just insults and saying no like a crybaby, I thought you would get used to being wrong by now like in every other thread but your stubborness is amusing.

Lol apartheid was terrible and treated non whites as less than human, this is in NO way a good thing.

The average white person a) didnt oppose apartheid which is bad and b) most of the "terrorist" attacks were at military, political and strategic targets, the incidences where innocent white people were specifically targetted were very minimal

Also haha how immature to follow that up with a post with a cliched and unintelligent insult

 

[hit patel]

God Bless Nelson Mandela. He tried to do something that we all know that none of us would be able to do or would atleast try to do. He supported the decent cause for the people. I dont know what you guys say or what your personal beliefs are, he will stay a good leader. Atleast for me. Let me tell you people this, people who have seen poverty just like Mandela try to help other people who are suffering from it. Hopefully I would be able to do something to help those people in need when I am able enough, thats if I am able to be the person I want to be.

 

[Kiraken]

We should embrace inequality because apparently no one "gives a fuck"