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  • A load of codswallop. OBVIOUSLY why wouldn't chicks want a nice guy?

    Votes: 35 26.5%
  • Definitely true. A true jerk is the way to go

    Votes: 25 18.9%
  • Hmmm i'm going to sit on the fence. Something in between

    Votes: 33 25.0%
  • No i didn't read it because i am a lazy motherf*cker. I'm also a troll

    Votes: 39 29.5%

  • Total voters
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Bobness

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LOL i'm sure this must have been mentioned countless times in the unfathomable heap that is the L&R section.

"why do the girls go for the jerks?"
"what are intellectual whores?"
"dr phil please tell me why i'm so pussy-whipped?"

But i just thought i'd post it here in its entirety.

http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~jenf/writing/rant04.html

one of the many 'nice guys' out there said:
This is a tribute to the nice guys. The nice guys that finish last, that never become more than friends, that endure hours of whining and bitching about what assholes guys are, while disproving the very point. This is dedicated to those guys who always provide a shoulder to lean on but restrain themselves to tentative hugs, those guys who hold open doors and give reassuring pats on the back and sit patiently outside the changing room at department stores. This is in honor of the guys that obligingly reiterate how cute/beautiful/smart/funny/sexy their female friends are at the appropriate moment, because they know most girls need that litany of support. This is in honor of the guys with open minds, with laid-back attitudes, with honest concern. This is in honor of the guys who respect a girl’s every facet, from her privacy to her theology to her clothing style.

This is for the guys who escort their drunk, bewildered female friends back from parties and never take advantage once they’re at her door, for the guys who accompany girls to bars as buffers against the rest of the creepy male population, for the guys who know a girl is fishing for compliments but give them out anyway, for the guys who always play by the rules in a game where the rules favor cheaters, for the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material but somehow don’t end up being boyfriends, for all the nice guys who are overlooked, underestimated, and unappreciated, for all the nice guys who are manipulated, misled, and unjustly abandoned, this is for you.

This is for that time she left 40 urgent messages on your cell phone, and when you called her back, she spent three hours painstakingly dissecting two sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner. And even though you thought her boyfriend was a chump and a jerk, you assured her that it was all ok and she shouldn’t worry about it. This is for that time she interrupted the best killing spree you’d ever orchestrated in GTA3 to rant about a rumor that romantically linked her and the guy she thinks is the most repulsive person in the world. And even though you thought it was immature and you had nothing against the guy, you paused the game for two hours and helped her concoct a counter-rumor to spread around the floor. This is also for that time she didn’t have a date, so after numerous vows that there was nothing “serious” between the two of you, she dragged you to a party where you knew nobody, the beer was awful, and she flirted shamelessly with you, justifying each fit of reckless teasing by announcing to everyone: “oh, but we’re just friends!” And even though you were invited purely as a symbolic warm body for her ego, you went anyways. Because you’re nice like that.

The nice guys don’t often get credit where credit is due. And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don’t seem to get laid as often as they should. And I wish I could logically explain this trend, but I can’t. From what I have observed on campus and what I have learned from talking to friends at other schools and in the workplace, the only conclusion I can form is that many girls are just illogical, manipulative bitches. Many of them claim they just want to date a nice guy, but when presented with such a specimen, they say irrational, confusing things such as “oh, he’s too nice to date” or “he would be a good boyfriend but he’s not for me” or “he already puts up with so much from me, I couldn’t possibly ask him out!” or the most frustrating of all: “no, it would ruin our friendship.” Yet, they continue to lament the lack of datable men in the world, and they expect their too-nice-to-date male friends to sympathize and apologize for the men that are jerks. Sorry, guys, girls like that are beyond my ability to fathom. I can’t figure out why the connection breaks down between what they say (I want a nice guy!) and what they do (I’m going to sleep with this complete ass now!). But one thing I can do, is say that the nice-guy-finishes-last phenomenon doesn’t last forever. There are definitely many girls who grow out of that train of thought and realize they should be dating the nice guys, not taking them for granted. The tricky part is finding those girls, and even trickier, finding the ones that are single.

So, until those girls are found, I propose a toast to all the nice guys. You know who you are, and I know you’re sick of hearing yourself described as ubiquitously nice. But the truth of the matter is, the world needs your patience in the department store, your holding open of doors, your party escorting services, your propensity to be a sucker for a pretty smile. For all the crazy, inane, absurd things you tolerate, for all the situations where you are the faceless, nameless hero, my accolades, my acknowledgement, and my gratitude go out to you. You do have credibility in this society, and your well deserved vindication is coming.
Anywho, the first time i read it i didn't really give a stuff. Heck was i idealistic and believing that hey i'm sure love will have all the answers!

But nah sorry you're delusional if you honestly think (in regards to the 'tribute') it was all just bs with no basis. It might be a very generalised view but i reckon it at least holds more inherent value than the old 'girls want a nice sensitive guy' mentality.

Views? And reactions? Yes go crazy trolls. I'm sure you're all nice guys in real life and this is your alternate online persona :D
 
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girls always like obnoxious guys, its the way its always been. regardless whether the nice guy has plenty of confidence or not, the girl likes being dominated, hooking u pwith as many guys as she can then eventually find a 'nice guy'. its the core reason girls are selfish shedevils out too consume the remainder of us nice guys left.
FIGHT THE POWER!
 

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I like nice guys. Oh shit did I say that out loud... :p

Nice chicks never make a move and usually tell their friends to tell you that they like you. Then they expect you to ask them out and when you don't there is massive awkwardness when you're in the same room together...
 

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this is a never ending debate question! You ask why girls dont go for the 'nice' guys? well coz generally 'bad' boys are more fun to hang around with and if ur too much of a nice guy the girl will take advantage of the fact that ur always gonna be around.
 

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if ur too much of a nice guy the girl will take advantage of the fact that ur always gonna be around.
i think that is pretty well a sum up of my trouble
 

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You have to draw lines between nice, jerk and assertive these are differing terms in general jerks will be more assertive because being over-assertive is a jerk trait and is often necessary to use people etc. Nice guys tend to be not assertive because part of the reason you think they're nice is that they give in to you and let you get your way.

I suggest it's possible to be nice and assertive and furthermore that girls are attracted to assertive not jerkish.
 

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davin said:
i think that is pretty well a sum up of my trouble
my advise is slow down ur communication with her for about a week, if ur the nice guy that u claim to be then she'll really miss ur presence and will learn to appreciate u more.
 

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Or she might think you don't like her anymore and then she'll start ignoring you :eek:
 

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riot_girl88 said:
my advise is slow down ur communication with her for about a week, if ur the nice guy that u claim to be then she'll really miss ur presence and will learn to appreciate u more.
the pathetic thing about it is i really don't think i could outright cut off communication, esp if she needed someone to talk to. which doesn't mean i'm activly bugging her... communication is driven entirely on her terms is all. so basicly, i hear from her primarily when she needs someone to talk to. there's the unfortunite element of a distance involved..... but it was 2 years of a relationship, and now its been 2 years of not a relationship, and unfortunitly for me, i still love her. so, when she has guys treat her badly, she ends up talking to me, complaining about how she can't find anyone decent or that guys are bad, and feeling all dejected.
its a rather frustrating position to be in, moreso when she throws comments at me that i don't know how to interpret. practically speaking, nothing'll come of it, but one can't help but hope
 

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slut said:
this is a never ending debate question! You ask why girls dont go for the 'nice' guys? well coz generally 'bad' boys are more fun to hang around with and if ur too much of a nice guy the girl will take advantage of the fact that ur always gonna be around.
lol. slut.
 

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Nolanistic said:
If you want to get laid, treat women like shit.
Ummmm you'll only manage to get dumb sluts though.
 

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nice guys may finish "last"...

but just because they might have to wait a bit longer doesn't mean that they get the scraps of woman-kind.
 

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Well, Im going out with an extremely nice guy, and I knew he was one when i first met him. Im happy to be going out with a nice guy after all the fucks ive unintentionally gone out with (excuse the language)
Weve been going out for 3 months now and im the happiest ive ever been, Id never want to go out with a "rebel" or whatever, well, unless it was a nice rebel. I love my nice guy and that will never change.

Oh, by unintentionall gone out with, i meant that i didnt know what dickheads they were when i met them.

Again, sorry for the language, dont usually swear. lol. Not that any of you really care if i swear :p
 

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Nice guys can go alrite, but they are usually branded as friends by the women they are nice to rather than a potential mate. This can be for a number of reasons, like their inability to flirt or pick up signals early on, or because they are shy etc etc etc
 

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i love nice guys, but when you are WITH a nice guy.. all the nice guy things that he does are not only directed towards you - but to every other wingey-whiney female on planet earth who wants more attention

and that is that
 

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Bookie said:
lol. slut.
My oh my do we have some very bitter and judgemental people on this bored. don't call me a slut u prick! Maybe if u weren't a total asshole you'll be able to pick up a few guys ur self. Maybe the reason as to why ur gay is due to ur inability to communicate with people of the opposite sex. Grow up moron.
 

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